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Durability may be in. But is it wanted?

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by Combine_Kegan, May 18, 2013.

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Do you want durability?

  1. No, leave my gear alone

    339 vote(s)
    69.5%
  2. Yes, I want durability

    149 vote(s)
    30.5%
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  1. Durability works good in games like rouge-likes and survival, because you constantly need to search for new weapons.
    In a game like Starbound, however, it's more RPG-like, longer, so I think that durability is less of an issue. As long as you keep upgrading from planet to planet, you shouldn't have an issue with using one ultra-weapon, since you should always be getting better ones until the very end.

    I think that having durability is not as great an idea because while it is realistic, it just doesn't seem fun. It's another stat that you need to keep track of, and you wind up never using your better weapons just because you don't want your rare treasure to break. I can understand how it "balances" the strong from the weak, but can we just have something else? Like power, for instance. Or perhaps the item becomes unusable until you repair it using other "useless" vendor items.

    But here's a better idea.

    Hunger is optional, so why not make durability optional?
    Or, how about a gamemode, where the focus is on survival? Items break, you need to eat, there's no respawning, etc.
     
  2. Tericc

    Tericc Aquatic Astronaut

    This so much this.
    in this thread im mostly pro Dura but if it cannot be rep'd I would mod that out or find someone better at it and mod it out.
    Im pro dura but mostly for the "against all odds" outlook. The survival and fear of whats lurking in the dark is what gives me a thrill.
    There is a lot more but in topic that is one of many things.
    But in no way am i for once dura is 0 its dead. fk that.
     
  3. TheLoanArranger

    TheLoanArranger Ketchup Robot

    Yeah, that one doesn't even have realism to fall back on.

    e- I recall a game, can't remember the name, where items didn't break or become unusable but for example your gun might jam more often at minimum durability (as an improperly maintained weapon would), know what I'm talking about? Actually, that's probably been done many times. Was kind of annoying but less so than, hey, go back to that random merchant now or else.
     
  4. Forever

    Forever Phantasmal Quasar

    I can't stress this enough, only durability for items that are 3D printed! It'd make "Authentic" gear much more important.
     
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  5. TheLoanArranger

    TheLoanArranger Ketchup Robot

    What about "Terrific Authentic" gear?

    Sorry, just watched that episode of Castle.
     
  6. ZangooseSlash

    ZangooseSlash Black Hole Surfer

    no durability pls
     
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  7. LastDay

    LastDay Heliosphere

    If I had to make a guess I'd say that Tiy wants to have durability precisely so that they can make printed items have lower durability than authentic ones.
    Note: This is purely my speculation.
     
  8. Sousuke Kuroda

    Sousuke Kuroda Spaceman Spiff

    Yeah printed gear I wouldn't have a problem with, it would actually give a real reason for their being less valuable.
     
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  9. Gentleraptor

    Gentleraptor Pangalactic Porcupine

    Hey Loan, you asked me what a real reason is, so I got your real reason right there. Please don't go and ignore it. :(
     
  10. Tericc

    Tericc Aquatic Astronaut

    I like this as well, Really good gear worthy of being printed will still bring a trade aspect to the game. Really good gear "should" be a rare find.
    That good printed gear is something people would trade for because.. well its just that good. that "Print" adamantium boomstick vs the original wooden butter knife.. what would you rather spelunk with?
     
  11. Bismuth

    Bismuth Cosmic Narwhal

    If items break over time I'm sticking to Terraria. Done.
     
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  12. TheLoanArranger

    TheLoanArranger Ketchup Robot

    Oh, dang. Yeah, I get all that. I agree with most of it (except for the hurting trade bit, if it applies to every item it wouldn't be relevant to trade, I think, or the average price of items would still be constant relative to each other, that is).
     
  13. Gentleraptor

    Gentleraptor Pangalactic Porcupine

    True, but it was just a list of the arguments I found around the thread. The point itself still stands.
     
  14. TheLoanArranger

    TheLoanArranger Ketchup Robot

    I think we might have had the same point, there? At least, mine was that one side doesn't have a "more real" reason than the other, so your listing both sides was helpful. Those are all "real" reasons and even some of them you see as cons may be seen as pros to others.
     
  15. Gentleraptor

    Gentleraptor Pangalactic Porcupine

    It is not a list of cons and pros. It's a list of the arguments of both sides - Weither or not I agree with them is besides the point.

    However, I do feel that the pro durability side is rather lacking in arguments. I do feel that durability needs a proper justification to be implemented, since from a gameplay standpoint, it only adds a restriction with no beneficial effect whatsoever. Such things should be avoided in my opinion.

    The somewhat hostile attitude of the pro-durability side did not help either.
     
  16. Tericc

    Tericc Aquatic Astronaut

    There was a bit of hostility from the anti Dura side as well. Im not going to point any fingers but there not hard to find.
     
  17. Dzelda

    Dzelda Parsec Taste Tester

    I like the challenge in durability. Chances are though, it will be limited in its own way, or in the case of what Starbounds done with many of its more... questionable features, make it an option. (Although I dont see how youd make durability an option.) Hmmmm..... well just have to wait and see, and give feedback when we know more. *shrug*
     
  18. Gentleraptor

    Gentleraptor Pangalactic Porcupine

    Yes, I have mentioned that earlier. However, it was mostly in response. (Apart from that one guy whose name I forgot)
     
  19. Tericc

    Tericc Aquatic Astronaut

    agreed, not all of us can be level headed and keep things in a civilized debate.
    So far I loved this thread.. been quite enlightening to see what both parties think.
     
  20. TheLoanArranger

    TheLoanArranger Ketchup Robot

    I was talking about your assessment of each one.

    Personally, I agree, at least in a sense that it shouldn't be a required feature, such as hunger and such are not.
     
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