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Do weapons you find ever become better than the default craftables?

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by Yasic, Dec 7, 2013.

  1. Yasic

    Yasic Space Hobo

    First of all I have to say I absolutely love this game, but I am finding one element less than enjoyable: You can't loot decent weapons or armor.

    When I first started this game I saw how powerful the starting sword was and decided as a first goal to upgrade it. So I made a pickaxe, grabbed some food, and proceeded to mine until I gathered the materials to make the broadsword that you have the default recipe for on the anvil. I crafted it and went exploring other words, and playing with friends.

    Many many hours of gameplay later, I have explored dozens of planets, found plenty of villages, caverns, pirate ships, guarded labs, and other features. During those I have found a ton of dropped weapons, and purchased weapon blueprints. Much to my dismay none of those were better than the broadsword I made in my first couple hours of gameplay. I expected to eventually find a hidden weapon of power and awesomeness and instead I just kept finding junk after more junk.

    So I decided that perhaps this is just an issue with tier one and time to unlock tier 2. I destroyed the penguin ship with ease, got the new recipes, and with the chests upon chests of gold, silver, iron and coal I collected I made the second level broadsword and went to my first planet on tier 2... and over the next several hours I encountered the same thing: The second level broadsword that I made before ever entering the beta sector was worlds better than anything I could find.

    Is this intentional? Can you actually find weapons or recipes for weapons better than the default ones per tier?
     
  2. NateTronic

    NateTronic Subatomic Cosmonaut

    thats bad news for me because one of the main features for me is looking forward to finding new and powerful weapons
     
  3. Claith

    Claith Big Damn Hero

    The level of the equipment is tied directly to the level of the planet, so if you want a better weapon, you should go to a higher level planet, or hope for a champion monster at night for a chance at a better weapon.

    I was quite surprised at this level 30 grasslands planet and I was able to get an armor penetration 33 dagger as it is higher level than the zone. This dagger is close to a short sword in damage and speed + poison, so it works great.
     
  4. Geomexis

    Geomexis Big Damn Hero

    Well, in my own experience I haven't had to use a crafted weapon in quite a while. With Legendary weapons, guns, and 'special' weapons floating around that usually have better damage than the default crafted stuff I just don't bother making them anymore.

    So far most of the better weapons are just rare drops from dungeon enemies and mini-bosses.
     
  5. WilliamWallace

    WilliamWallace Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    The loot in this game is garbage or at least it is for me. I have never replaced a craftable with anything I found except for other craftables in tiers 1-3. The mini-bosses are few and far between and I never see anything worthwhile drop. The dungeon loot is meh. Maybe my RNG is just crap.

    edit: If it is possible, I'd like to see more interesting loot in this game. I was promised more guns than borderlands. I found one gun in 22 hours of gameplay and it sucked compared to the starter sword at the beginning of the game.
     
  6. Yasic

    Yasic Space Hobo

    Geomexis, do you find this true only in the higher tiers of gameplay, or are you finding better weapons and armor in Tiers 1 and 2 as well?
     
  7. gb3792

    gb3792 Subatomic Cosmonaut

    On a similar subject: Is there viable armor to be found in random chests? Fancy weapons are good and nice, but they're not that useful if everything you come across is able to one-hit kill you.

    So far I haven't found any armor in chests, so that's why I'm asking.
     
  8. WilliamWallace

    WilliamWallace Scruffy Nerf-Herder


    That would be nice. Maybe a simplified version of some ARPG drops? :D
     
  9. Bandethor

    Bandethor Pangalactic Porcupine

    so far the default 2.0 has been the best weapon i have found and i have been to a lot of places i expect that later with tweaking to the game we will find better stuff
     
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  10. Geomexis

    Geomexis Big Damn Hero

    In the first 5 minutes of my Apex run I managed to get my hands on a Legendary weapon that stayed with me up until the Beta sector. Though that was more extreme luck than anything else. Pretty much if you can run a few dungeons and kill some mini-bosses early on you get weapons which end up being better than what you craft. Haven't had any luck with armor recipes and drops though, usually just end up finding silly costume bits.
     
  11. WilliamWallace

    WilliamWallace Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    However, in a game with loot. You should find good loot every now and again. I can't find anything that beats the default weapons. Also, we need some random armor to drop between the tier armor. :)
     
  12. Bandethor

    Bandethor Pangalactic Porcupine

    id say once things get adjusted more we will find more and more stuff i stopped counting how many times i found the bone hammer that shoots the cloud stuff out
     
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  13. Serenity

    Serenity The Waste of Time

    It's beta they are working on this stuff.

    Closest thing I have found to a gun lol
     
  14. FDru

    FDru Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    I've found tons of great weapons. Hell on the first planet one of the first things I found was a purple sword that shot bubbles. I don't think that crafted weapons have any special effects, so that's incentive for you to find weapons as loot. Just remember they generally only drop from humanoid enemies, so you'll need to kill Avians (or whatever) instead of just regular monsters. Also, guns are fairly rare as drops but you can find Avian shops that sell tons of guns if you're lucky.
     
  15. Bandethor

    Bandethor Pangalactic Porcupine

    i found a pistol and my sword or bow was still better lol
     
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  16. Serenity

    Serenity The Waste of Time

    That is why reforging or random buffs and debuffs of created items would be cool. For instance the more a weapon is made the more likely a new one will have better stats.
     
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  17. GaLm

    GaLm Space Spelunker

    The problem is the armor penetration/level system, it allows you to skip or miss entire levels of equipment if you know or don't know what you're doing. Since they're reworking the system completely in the very next patch, I'd hope this would encourage a lot more just trying to find cool loot rather than crafting a weapon that's far higher than your current stuff immediately when you unlock the ability to.
     
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  18. Eyeless_Camper

    Eyeless_Camper Big Damn Hero

    As soon as i beat the penguin boss and got to beta sector i went to a planet and found a pink one handed lightsaber that shoot bubbles, it had like 14 armor penetration, 1.5 in speed and 26 damage per hit :3

    So much better then my old Shanker, use lightsaber with shield now.
     
  19. thecactigod

    thecactigod Void-Bound Voyager

    Hmm. I have had to restart the game due to crashes aand I already ffound a couple weapons better than mine. You just have to explore more on different planets.
     
  20. ranmafan

    ranmafan Big Damn Hero

    A prison inmate on a level 5 planet dropped a 2-handed axe that does 400+ damage and swings at 0.8 attacks per second AND has a lightning element attack. I'd say that's pretty much the definition of 'throw away my craftable weapon'.
     

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