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Dear Devs

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by Silverforte, Dec 9, 2013.

  1. Silverforte

    Silverforte Spaceman Spiff

    I love this game. I've been waiting for it since it was announced, I've told everyone I know online and offline about it and it's everything I hoped it would be. It's hard, it's rewarding, it's atmospheric and rings memories of Super Metroid in my mind.

    However... I'm seeing a lot of people coming to the forums and complaining that the game is too hard or it's this or it's that. Please, for the love of all things Starbound, I beg you not to make the game easier, or at the very least, too easy. It's been well known for a while now that if fans of something cry loud enough for long enough, devs will make changes to accomodate those people. I really don't want to see this game become like every other game which rewards players for basically nothing. The game's difficulty makes things more rewarding, it makes me want to strive to get that upgrade or fortify my base. Making the game too easy will trivialize these rewards. It devalues everything. I see people say that they lose too much money when they die, gear costs too much to make and you don't make enough money. NONE of those things are true. The gear prices make the items more valuable, more desirable.

    If they cost less it's not going to feel that great when you make the item. It's not even that hard to make pixels! I had died whilst mining. Dropped me from whatever I was at to 900 pixels. I bucked up, went back down and came back to the same spot I was at when I died. I killed stuff, broke containers and explored for 15 minutes. I accumulated many more pixels than I had when I died and was up to 1600 pixels. It's not that hard, it's challenging. Challenge is something missing from most modern games and it's one of the values that makes this game so special. I don't want my hand held, so please don't make Starbound just one long tutorial. I have respect for this game and the devs and am completely grateful for all the hard work that went into building it. It's a masterpiece, it's art, and I would hate to see the people kicking and screaming get their way.
     
    Kahryl, Kexy Knave, Teih and 3 others like this.
  2. ZangooseSlash

    ZangooseSlash Black Hole Surfer

    Challenge should be optional. Some people don't like dying every 2 minutes.
    Difficulty should be selectable.
     
  3. DannyMaku

    DannyMaku Subatomic Cosmonaut

    Oh, boy.

    This thread.

    Again.
     
  4. Litagano Motscoud

    Litagano Motscoud Master Astronaut

    Just what we needed, another thread to spark another flamewar.
     
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  5. Silverforte

    Silverforte Spaceman Spiff

    Right, forgot opinion isn't forgivable around here. I don't apologize for stating it. If you guys could not troll the forums looking to start arguments where none are needed or post unconstructive replies like 'this thread again', that'd be swell.
     
    Last edited: Dec 9, 2013
  6. Cosmin Negoita

    Cosmin Negoita Phantasmal Quasar

    Hey, while I kinda agree with you, you have to see things from the other side too. The game really is hard, which doesn't really bother me, but there are people that didn't play similar games. It was easy for me to accomodate because I've been playing Terraria even since it was released. I know how to play games like this but, I tried to put myself in the place of a new comer, a gamer that didn't play such games. The game is a little hard and sometimes kills patience. There are a lot of people that want something else from a space exploration game.

    Also, the devs will listen to the majority and this may be a bad thing for you and another one, but they care about the majority. What if X people bought the game and 70% of these people are not satisfied and they regret buying Starbound? That wouldn't be nice.

    Chucklefish tries to take sides with everyone. They are trying to satisfy both parties, hardcore and casual gamers. So bear with them. They know exactly in what direction to go. Just sit tight and wait untill we get a final version. Then let the judging commence!
     
  7. sidriel

    sidriel Industrial Terraformer

    i can't tell if you're being serious or trolling right now... Unless you're suggesting a creative mode for folks to just piss around in, in which case i'm whole heartily in :3
     
  8. GundamZphyr7

    GundamZphyr7 Big Damn Hero

    Starbound isn't hard.

    Stop saying it is.
     
  9. Silverforte

    Silverforte Spaceman Spiff

    I did not say the game should not have options for difficulty. I think that's perfectly acceptable. All I was saying with my post was that I thank the devs for their hard work and hope they don't nerf the entire game. That's all. I went into detail because I felt that Chucklefish deserves more than

    'ty I love this game'.

    I did in no way mean to imply that I think everyone needs to suck it up. I'm well aware not everyone enjoys the same difficulty.

    Take the poster above me, for example. Probably loves the challenge.
     
  10. Serenity

    Serenity The Waste of Time

     
  11. Cosmin Negoita

    Cosmin Negoita Phantasmal Quasar

    It's like I'd say you're smart when others think you aren't. Each individual has his opinion, friend. Don't you ever forget that. We're not forced to think like you.
     
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  12. steveman0

    steveman0 Phantasmal Quasar

    Challenge is optional. The devs won't stop you from cheating to your hearts content through modding.
     
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  13. Serenity

    Serenity The Waste of Time

    ^^
    What tesla siad
     
  14. ProudPlatypus

    ProudPlatypus Aquatic Astronaut

    Starbound is severely unbalanced right now, it's early beta. Things are going to change and the difficulty of the game will move about until they get it to where they want it to be.
     
  15. Bearminator

    Bearminator Subatomic Cosmonaut

    People should stop playing games if they don't like the challange OR start using cheats. I'm pretty damn done with those dumbed down games.
     
  16. Serenity

    Serenity The Waste of Time

    Honestly why are people still arguing the devs have clarified on this issue
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  17. NFossil

    NFossil Phantasmal Quasar

    It might not be hard, but it has weirdly designed aspects. Say 3D printer using pixel to both break down and print items, and you lose pixels no matter you die or not (in the new system).
     
  18. Loksoral

    Loksoral Void-Bound Voyager

    Can we stop these threads, please? We've got dozens of them, and every single angle of this has been discussed and debated ad nauseam. There is a balance patch coming, today, or tommorow. It's already been changed, deal with it.

    If the balance change sucks, they may change it back. I don't know.
     
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  19. Silverforte

    Silverforte Spaceman Spiff

    Seems like people just want to argue. I'll post what I please, thank you :L

    I don't see a lot of arguing except coming from the people demanding that 'these threads' get made too often and barking orders that I not make anymore even though I was almost positive there was no way what I said could have drawn in so many negative nancies. I do however see debate happening, maybe if you guys can't possibly add anything positive to the post then you shouldn't really be looking for that reply button. These backseat forum moderators...
     
  20. Serenity

    Serenity The Waste of Time

    I think what I added was positive, how is it negative? Also don't vent your frustration will multiple other people on me.
     

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