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Crap OP... Literally

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by Tylerthedragon, Dec 14, 2013.

  1. XaoG

    XaoG Ketchup Robot

    Given a choice between the two, yeah, I think I'll take this crowd over that. Both of them make my head hurt, though. On one hand, you have people actively trying to harm the game. On the other, you have people actively trying to hamper it from improving.
     
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  2. ArcadeScholar

    ArcadeScholar Industrial Terraformer


    "damage" : 99999, "teamType" : "enemy" "damageSourceKind" : "testpoison"

    What that is, I'll go ahead and illustrate for others, more because I'm sure you already know, right? Is the damage output of the MicroPo monster. Lets take a look at another enemy.

    "damage" : 15, "teamType" : "enemy", "damageSourceKind" : "bite",

    These are the stats of the Penguin Rocket Trooper.

    I don't know, to me that seems somewhat intentional, what do you think ?
     
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  3. XaoG

    XaoG Ketchup Robot

    Numbers in a file don't equate to word of god and combined with so many other examples of one shotting being unintentional I'm going to stick with the theory that this is someone's mistake. So far, word of god has confirmed nearly every other other example of egregious one shotting to be a mistake.

    If it's intentional, though, that's definitely a strike against my faith of the dev's ability to do their job right. I don't hold them to be perfect, developers are entirely capable of being every bit as boneheaded as the people on their forums. It's just, thus far, they've done more to reinforce my faith than mar it.
     
  4. ArcadeScholar

    ArcadeScholar Industrial Terraformer

    Wow, I think your favored quote from G. Carlin explains most of our conversation pretty well. Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong. I don't see why that enemy shouldn't have the ability to one shot you. They die if you sneeze on them after all. I've been killed by one, thought it was funny. It went all sneaky and jumped up behind me. Not sure why something as trivial as this would make you think the devs can't do their job right. Quite negative sir, very negative indeed. I guess everyone else is just crazy! Our ideas make your head hurt! These devs better fix a rare, cute monster from doing so much damage or they shouldn't be making this game! Such profound wisdom in this one, he is but the chosen within a bastion of first world anti-intellectuals. All hail the true pixel messiah of game creation, our savior has come!
     
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  5. PlayMp1

    PlayMp1 Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    There's "numbers in a file," and then there's "they set the damage to 99999." I really doubt setting the damage of the Po that high was an accident. They're one of the premade mobs, so this isn't a case of the random number generator going herp derp, this is a case of the developers deciding, "we want an enemy that's a classic glass cannon - easy to kill, easy to get killed by."
     
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  6. ExplosiveCrate

    ExplosiveCrate Phantasmal Quasar

    My problem with that theory is that there is nothing that tells you that the Po is a glass cannon. The fact that it's impossible to know that it has the potential to one hit kill you until you actually get hit is just bad design.
     
  7. XaoG

    XaoG Ketchup Robot

    Meh, don't bother responding to those two. They think broken mechanics are good, and no amount of sensibility from any angle will convince them otherwise. Just ignore them.

    It has the bonus that the forum starts seeming much more intelligent.
     
  8. ArcadeScholar

    ArcadeScholar Industrial Terraformer

    Never said broken mechanics were good you elitist prick, I was saying that it seemed to me to be an intentional thing. They'll likely mark the monster as a high threat later on in the beta testing the same way they'll mark the others as low, medium or high threat. You want to talk about sensibility? I make a valid point towards not broken mechanics, but that it was intentional and you cut what I say out and replace it with "blah blah blah" and disregard any sort of opinion that doesn't agree with you. Then come back into the thread to tell others to ignore us once someone comes along that agrees with you, all the while making "those two" out to be idiots. Quit being an elitist, everyone's opinion is as valid as yours. Don't tell people to ignore us either, you have no right to do so even if we don't agree with one another.
     
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  9. Grimm2769

    Grimm2769 Aquatic Astronaut

    I heard rumors of a beast. One of such deranged and horrific design that only a madman could look upon it and know anything but terror.

    srsly though I heard from a friend that they are meant to do that. Dunno if it's true but it amuses me.
     
  10. ArcadeScholar

    ArcadeScholar Industrial Terraformer

    [​IMG]
    Does this look like the face of mercy? :p
     
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  11. Tanek

    Tanek Pangalactic Porcupine

    How do you know how hard anything will hit until it hits you? How do you know the effect food will have until you try it? Part of the fun of an exploration game is learning these things. Yes, it may cost you a death, but as Danny Vermin would say, "The little Po hit me once...ONCE." Then you know. :)

    For comparisons to the buff capsule things, those are an issue no matter how you look at it. Having them do 1-shot amounts of damage just means people avoid them because any potential benefit they give is not worth the risk. Enemies are different.
     
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  12. Tsal

    Tsal Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Screw you and your veiled insults. Poo has always one shot since day one of beta. Prove that it wasn't intended.

    Get one shot by the poo? UMADBRO?
     
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  13. Tylerthedragon

    Tylerthedragon Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Because Something in a gamma world should not be doing 170 damage a hit. I can understand in higher tier, but this is after the robot, and a mob shouldn't be 10x stronger than the bone dragon at such a point in the game.
    If it was intended, then its a stupid idea from the devs and shouldn't exist and needs to be fixed before theres 10,000 other forum posts about this topic.
     
  14. Tsal

    Tsal Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Nonsense, it was made to one shot. It being a "bad design" or "stupid idea" is like your opinion man. Sorry you don't like getting pooed on. I got pooed on once and after I knew poo could one shot me I stopped mindlessly barreling through sewers and it never happened again.
     
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  15. PlayMp1

    PlayMp1 Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    It's coded to do specifically 99999 damage. If that's not intentional, I don't know what is. If the devs decide that that's what the Po will do, then tough.

    If you don't like it that much, it's pretty simple to set the Po's damage to whatever you want. It's one line of text in a config file somewhere. Open it up in Notepad++, hunt down the file in question, and change the value from 99999 to something more appropriate in your eyes. I dunno, maybe -1, so they'll heal you when you get hit because otherwise the game is too hard.
     
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  16. Tsal

    Tsal Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Well then according to your logic like 75% of the games that released on both the original and super nintendo did so with "broken mechanics."

    Your frustration over your failure at hand eye coordination doesn't make the rest of us any less sensible.
     
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  17. Tsal

    Tsal Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    He isn't elitist, he is total bad who must fail at hand eye coordination to be soo angry about one shot mechanics in a platform game.
     
  18. ExplosiveCrate

    ExplosiveCrate Phantasmal Quasar

    This isn't a goddamn trial/error platformer.
     
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  19. CisRox

    CisRox Aquatic Astronaut

    (off topic) You play spacestation 13?
     
  20. ExplosiveCrate

    ExplosiveCrate Phantasmal Quasar

    Yes, I play /tg/station.
     

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