Concerning Different Races

As most (If not all) of you know, The Avians were announced as a playable race. If you read the lore about them, you notice it said that they have "Primative looking weapons infused with advanced technology" as well as "mechanical wings that function much like jetpacks. So here is a question for you to discuss:

Will these items be seperate from the other items, or part of that items procedural generation? Say you find a spear, will it have a chance to be an avian spear in the place of a regular one, or a different item entirely? Also, if the items are identical in stats, should only certain races be able to create them?

 

I voted maybe. If this is done it will have to be very well implemented and will work much better in co op(item sharing). In addition there could be a de-specifier type crafting station.

 

I jsut noticed I out an extra F in the poll.

 

I would say maybe there should be separate items found in different generated areas that coincide with a particular race. Though I think any race should be allowed to use the item so that they perhaps don't gain a racial bonus for using that item. Perhaps if you use items of your race you can benefit more, but not so much that other options are out of the question.

 

What're you talking about? Specififcness is good :P

 

I think a way to encourage races to use their own weapons would be to give them racial stats for using said weapons. For example, the Avians might gain an attack speed increase when one of their weapons are used and sane goes for any other race.

The schematics for weapons could be found in places like the avian temple, but there could also be weapons that only the avian can learn, which would make picking races ever more unique.

Another thing they could implement, is racial abilities or passives. Since Avians are a primitive race, they might specialize in melee combat and have a 10% damage increase to all melee damage. A highly advanced alien race might have a passive of say increased chance to crit with any laser weapon. There could even be a stone golem type race that work best as tanks and could have a passive of something like every 5th attack is blocked automatically.

When picking race, there should be a little description. "The avian race gains bonuses from using their own weapons in combat". "stone golems suffer less damage in combat" etc.

Having a system like this would make races more dynamic and unique rather than just a visual appearance difference which would most likely be covered up by armor later in the game anyway.

 

I agree that there should be differences but too many people complain about how some races would be overpowered.

 

That's why they have to balance them as best they can. They can also make changes to races through patches after receiving feedback from the community. So it's not really that big of a deal. I don't think there's a game in history that has had all classes/races/weapons balanced on release date.

 

^^ I agree, you'll note I didn't say I feel that way, in fact I said the opposite.

 

Yeah I know just merely pointing out in case those sorts of people come and complain. it's not the end of the world if a race has an advantage over others. That's why we have these forums, so the devs can get feedback and adjust/improve the game accordingly.

 

Maybe it could be something like: avians get 20% damage bonus against grassland creatures, humans get 15% bonus against the environment, etc. That way its not huge bouns and it doesn't apply to PVP. There could be more bonuses per race but these are just examples.

 

I'm pretty sure they all ready said that the races will be purely aesthetic.

 

Have not seen this anywhere. Unless your confusing the large amount of speculation with a statement from the devs :P

 

I really hope it isn't just cosmetics. Because with helmets etc you're not going to see a difference between different species anyway. There is so much potential in just adding racial abilities and just makes the gameplay more fun. I you find another passive you like better on a different race, no worries, put all your gear in a chest and make a new character.

 

I want the Avian to be the only ones to have Jetpacks.
That way there is some reason to play them other than just cosmetics.
Everything has its Pros and Cons, and one of the Avian pros is the Jetpack.

 

I think they should be semi-exclusive to avions.

If they have some sort of reputation system in the game based on quests you do for that race they should make it so you have to be respected by them a cirtain amount before they will give you schimatics/recipes to their tech.
of course their tech should be drops too, but make it so you can't get any of the high end stuff that way. giving the player a reason to cooperate with them.
Obviously the avion race should be able to get most of this for free (well not all available at the beginning), this just applies for other races.

 

Crap no.Races are aesthetic,no bonus depending on the race,it would be limitative. i.e. for a race to have bonus with wanged weapons the melee ones should have negative bonus so if there's someone who likes the race but not the ranged weaps couldn't be at the same level of others even with stronger items.
I think the method is kinda like this:
it's a particular race that requires determinate looking?----> use only determinated sprites to procedurally generate the items

 

they have already hinted at differences in gameplay though. Like saying avions have "Primitive tools imbued with advanced tech" I doubt all races would be like that. and the machanical wings are also already said to belong to the avion technology.
Though to be fair they will probably have the same weapon with a different visual for each race (same effect different look) Like instead of machanical wings. they could have a Normal jetpack, or a cape of flying type thing... none of which act any different for each other.

 

Mhhh,no.Avians has "primitive tools imblued with advanced tech" when you encouter them but not on the player.The items won't change appereance by race simply you will find avian looking items by avians and so on.
Maybe races will have bonus by the way but it will probably be an heath boost or something that doesn't crush too much with items.

 

Surprised that the Yes/No ratio is almost tied. I would hate race specific weapons because it would go against one of the game's themes: options. There's going to be procedurally generated planets, weapons, and armor and originally you were going to be able to use all of them. So why would you want to be limited in those options? Wouldn't it make more sense to be able to use all weapons and instead have a racial effect on each weapon (i.e. Avians gain a 10% stat increase in all spear weapons, certain races get a -10% stat decrease on spears)?

With a game that's going to give you many ways to play, I think it would be counterproductive to limit weapons/armor to specific races as it would take away from gameplay.