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Combat too hard? Learn to dodge.

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by Gredd18, Dec 8, 2013.

  1. Sadron

    Sadron Ketchup Robot

    Yes there is.
     
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  2. Dr.Narwhal

    Dr.Narwhal Big Damn Hero

    This is a terrible idea and one obviously meant to tick people off. "LOL N00BS LERN 2 DOGE." the problem with the current system is that if you don' t notice a monster hiding in a cave or running behind you, you can't really dodge because they move so fast in air. It's not fun. It's simply frustrating to not hit spacebar fast enough and have to go back to your ship.
     
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  3. Nellis

    Nellis Orbital Explorer

    Gonna be completely honest, fighting in this game isn't that hard. Sure, if you get stuck in a cave or a corner and they all jump at you you just gotta take the brunt of the attack and jump to safety, but with techs like Energy Dash and Rocket Jump it's incredibly easy to maneuver around and past enemies.

    Nothings better than Energy Dashing back and forth past an enemy and hitting them each time until they die.
     
  4. Exxion

    Exxion King Homestuck V

    I sort of agree and sort of don't.
    On the one hand, dodging isn't that difficult when fighting only a small number of monsters. It's fine if you have a good weapon.
    On the other hand, no game should be so unforgiving that all mobs can one-hit anyone wearing any armor that can be created without going where those mobs are found. It's ridiculous. There are people who want to be SUPER MEGA HARDCORE WARRIOR GENERALS and they can go to high-level planets with low level gear. But there are also people who just want to build, and the game should be possible for them to play. That's the purpose of the planet threat levels. You know if you can handle the planet before you go there.
     
  5. Litagano Motscoud

    Litagano Motscoud Master Astronaut

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    That made me laugh. Thanks.
     
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  6. Pentarctagon

    Pentarctagon Over 9000!!!

    But what if I want to tank?
     
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  7. Wyvern

    Wyvern Hard-To-Destroy Reptile

    Until you get to the enemies which essentially do contact damage.
     
  8. killerkrill

    killerkrill Seal Broken

    Oh my god you're so godlike, please teach me your super duper leet dodging ways.

    Starbound is not a competitive game. It is meant to be a game to be enjoyed with your friends or by yourself. There is no reason to change or not change the game just because YOU think it shouldn't or should be.
     
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  9. EddyOkapi

    EddyOkapi Subatomic Cosmonaut

    I hate when I semi agree with someone that is unable to make a point without being insulting and bragging so much. 1HKs are bad, though I tihnk it stems from people saying that about T1 where you can easily have an armor that prevents it, where if you die, yes, it becomes the player's fault more than the game's. The UFO boss at level 9 allows you to tank several hits without moving (except from rocket penguins who can off you in 2-3 hits) with the Snow Infantry armor. The Silver Armor allows you a bit less game but is still doable. Players are not bad, but complaining about something that requires patience and calculation of your movement as if it's the game's fault is... yeh.

    I do agree one hit kills on T2 and later are complete BS though. Revamp should help on that though, hopefully.
     
  10. Corrupt Ai

    Corrupt Ai Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Ah, so I see we've hit the "LEARN 2 PLAY AND DON'T COMPLAIN!!!1!!1!" stages of responding to criticism about the combat systems, because obviously, if it is easy for you, then it must be balanced perfectly, and everyone else should just get over it right?
     
  11. Vahnkiljoy

    Vahnkiljoy Ketchup Robot

    What I find hilarious is that, OP, if you had a computer which could actually PLAY games at a normal frame rate you would be steam rolled as you wouldn't know how to react to the proper game speeds compared to your apparently 'godly' 10 fps.
     
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  12. Langsandwich

    Langsandwich Void-Bound Voyager

    wait till the next patch is up when they change the armour and damage to a proper stat table and not just who hits first wins.
     
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  13. Skippy3

    Skippy3 Pangalactic Porcupine

    As a gamer with a low-end pc, I can confirm it's possible to do well at a game, even stand it.
     
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  14. F-ranko

    F-ranko Heliosphere

    I don't really think that you posting this thread is going to make people actually learn to dodge. It's really just saying "Can't dodge enemies? Fuck you.", and I doubt that's helping the situation.
    Can confirm, I've been playing through the entirety of Saints Row 3 with a stable frame rate of 15-20 and I'm loving the hell out of it.
     
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  15. cyberspyXD

    cyberspyXD Tiy's Beard

    Thanks for keeping up with the one thread a day quota that involves insulting people who think 1 shots are bad etc. Your a hero.
     
  16. SqualidMisnomer

    SqualidMisnomer Pangalactic Porcupine

    While I agree that the difficulty shouldn't be drastically nerfed to an extent were the game is ridiculously easy, it also needs to cater for the less experienced audience in order to be a success on the market.
    Some people are impatient, or don't necessarily care for the boss fights and are only defeating the UFO, or any boss, to gain access to some helpful loot or to further their game. Where as others are in it for the adventure, and enjoy the challenge and see the battles as the focal point of the game.

    So, for the lack of a better word, unfortunately the difficulty will be nerfed significantly so the developers can cater for a broader audience spectrum who will not be scared off by the endless discussion of the difficulty, which will be highly influential on their opinions. However, we have to keep in mind that this is a beta and there will be loads more bosses to come, who will be far, far harder than our current ones even with the lower difficulty setting. So until we have more of the game itself to discuss, I don't believe that this difficulty debate is entirely valid.
     
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  17. Litagano Motscoud

    Litagano Motscoud Master Astronaut

    Man, if I had a bunch of dosh, I'd give everyone I could a gaming computer

    Also, I have SR3. We should play sometime.
     
  18. FWB

    FWB Void-Bound Voyager

    Don't complain about it? Do something that isn't complaining? This is a BETA. Do you not know what a beta is. W'ere supposed to be bug testing and VOICING CONCERNS. Don't be an elitist butthole. One shotting is not okay. The devs should change this, not do what you suggest and just make players cope with terrible mechanics on their own.
     
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  19. DannyMaku

    DannyMaku Subatomic Cosmonaut

    I'm starting to think that, outside of bug reports, talks about the game's difficulty should be disallowed, since it all devolves into name calling.

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  20. Litagano Motscoud

    Litagano Motscoud Master Astronaut

    They are
     

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