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Can no longer holster weapons

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by Preday, Sep 9, 2016.

  1. Preday

    Preday Starship Captain

    I really liked that in the previous version you could press the quick access key a second time to holster whatever was in your hand. Now I see that has been removed. Some people say it is now the Z key to holster.

    But why did you change it? What was wrong with the previous setup?
     
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  2. Hel

    Hel ✨ Johto's Finest ✨ Forum Moderator

    Moved to Starbound Discussion, because this is not really a bug
     
  3. tehcavy

    tehcavy Ketchup Robot

    What do you mean? It still works for me (i.e. if I had a gun in 3rd slot, pressing 3 will make it active, and pressing 3 again will deselect/holster it)
     
  4. LazerRay

    LazerRay Cosmic Narwhal

    Hitting the same key the item is on holsters it, or you can hit the "Z" key to empty your hands, both methods work fine so you can use what is more convenient.
     
  5. Preday

    Preday Starship Captain

    Is there a new patch since 1.1? I could swear that pressing 3 again to holster did not work this morning
     
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  6. LordBaconator

    LordBaconator Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    It's not just you. It's broken for me too and I made heavy use of the convenience from the previous iteration.

    Granted, I do have a lot of mods installed. However, I don't have any mods that would have modified this behavior and don't see a reason why they would have changed it. Normally I will play devil's advocate and look at all of the perspectives on a topic, but in this case I think it's just a complete regression.
     
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  7. Ablekaine

    Ablekaine Pangalactic Porcupine

    You have to press "Z" now to holster your items. I know, it sucks.
     
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  8. tehcavy

    tehcavy Ketchup Robot

    Heh. It works on my 1.0.5. Boons of autoupdate turned off, I guess.
     
  9. LordBaconator

    LordBaconator Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Too bad Z is like the worst key on the entire keyboard. :nurusad:
     
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  10. Iris Blanche

    Iris Blanche Pudding Paradox Forum Moderator

    You can remap the key in the controls option.

    ~ Iris ~
     
  11. LordBaconator

    LordBaconator Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    That would be great if Z wasn't one of the only accessible keys left on the entire keyboard between default game bindings and my quick-react hotkeys.
     
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  12. SoopaDerpcat

    SoopaDerpcat Pangalactic Porcupine

    I have to press "Z" now? I have to move my pinky an ENTIRE KEY TO THE RIGHT from LShift?!

    My gosh, I may as well just build an actual spaceship and engage in real-life space travel if they're going to make Starbound THAT hard!
     
  13. Ablekaine

    Ablekaine Pangalactic Porcupine

    There's no need to be smart over it.
     
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  14. SoopaDerpcat

    SoopaDerpcat Pangalactic Porcupine

    My point is, it's really not that big of a deal. Sure, they didn't HAVE to change it, but it doesn't make it THAT inconvenient, and it's not like holstering even has any practical purpose whatsoever. As far as I can tell, guards no longer tell you to put your weapons away, and you can't accidentally attack NPCs any more. The only real reason to holster is to look more at-ease in screenshots. It's a rather pointless change, but it's not really one worth being upset about. It makes doing a thing that you never need to do slightly more inconvenient for the first few times until you get used to it.

    Heck, if they had removed holstering altogether, I'd sorta be a bit peeved, but all they did was change the key that you press to do it. It's so painfully trivial to the overall game. Considering just how much they nerfed stuff like planet and creature variety in 1.0, complaining about something as simple as having to press Z to holster now feels...beyond nitpicky.
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2016
  15. LordBaconator

    LordBaconator Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    I holster my items so that when I am walking my character will move at full speed regardless of where my mouse cursor is on the screen. It also prevents you from missclicking with a fully upgraded Matter Manipulator and breaking random blocks when you try to remove a chest or manage inventory.

    What they did is remove the key fob from my car.
    Sure, the key still works. I can still unlock the door. I can still drive the car.
    That doesn't make the sudden lack of a key fob suck ass any less when previously I had one.
     
  16. SoopaDerpcat

    SoopaDerpcat Pangalactic Porcupine

    But that's the point, you CAN still holster, you just have to hit a different key now. So it's more like you still have your key fob except that it's been rotated by 4 degrees.

    Yeah, sorry for being a smart-aleck about it, but...you get my point. For everything it did right, 1.0 also did a lot wrong. Rebinding holster to "Z" is literally the very least of its problems.
     
  17. tehcavy

    tehcavy Ketchup Robot

    Uhh, hate to cut into your pathos, but movement speed now is same regardless of what are you looking at. Was actually the first thing I tested. And I usually hold it either on inspect mod (for free flashlight) or on sword or machine pistol (you can quickly react if there is something up, and little to no penalty for misclick) when idle.
     
  18. LordBaconator

    LordBaconator Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    You can't sprint backwards.
    If you holster your weapon you can sprint in the opposite direction of the mouse without having to move the cursor. It's especially useful for times when you want to run across a large room while holding the mouse at the same level, among other things. It's more comfortable for sprinting very large distances, too.
     
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  19. claudekennilol

    claudekennilol Space Kumquat

    Can you seriously not get their point, though? They had a feature that they were using. Now that feature is gone. It really is just that simple. It doesn't matter if there is a different alternative. They're complaining that it worked before and now it doesn't. Their "key fob" was replaced with something similar to the "key fob" they already had that already worked but is now different. Stop trying to defend yourself when you're just telling them their opinion is wrong.
     
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  20. SephMoon

    SephMoon Phantasmal Quasar

    While I do slightly miss the ability to free your hands by pressing the item's hotkey, this change also reduces the chance of accidentally unequipping things like weapons and healing items during combat. So, overall, I'm fine with the change.
     
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