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Buff the UFO Boss Maybe? Also Guns Need to be Looked at

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by Pizzarugi, Dec 12, 2013.

  1. Jbeetle

    Jbeetle Oxygen Tank

    I think the UFO boss and all of its adds should do a little bit more damage, but only buff the hp slightly if at all. At first he took way too long. He wasn't even hard, he just took a million hits to kill.
     
  2. Kenthen

    Kenthen Void-Bound Voyager

    The nerfed UFO is now not only too easy but also very boring, since now it's really just a speed bump in the form of a big bag of HP.. May as well just let us craft the Molten Core if it's going to be such a cakewalk.
     
  3. Grimm2769

    Grimm2769 Aquatic Astronaut

    while agree that the UFO is too easy right now he is currently the first boss and most are meant to be more or less easily tackleable right now to ensure they can get feedback on higher tiers. I imagine we will see a buff to him at some point to return the UFO to a more scary level once they have hammered out some of the damage and armor quirks.
     
  4. SloppyMayor

    SloppyMayor Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Just because it's the first boss, That doesn't mean that it's supposed to be easy.

    When a mini-boss (Legendary) Is 2 times harder than a normal boss on the SAME planet, You know it's bad.
     
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  5. Decimationist

    Decimationist Intergalactic Tourist

    Yeah the ufo boss is a joke. The Robot is even easier now. He just sits there while you smash him. And doesn't do damage even when he decides to attack you. To everyone saying it is supposed to be easy, maybe you should wait til director mode? What is the point of even fighting the boss if all you have to do is hold down a single button and look away? You are just tricking yourself into thinking you accomplished something, when really you may as well have just skipped it all and had everything he rewards you with from the start.
     
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  6. GravyonTurkey

    GravyonTurkey Tentacle Wrangler

    This is what happens when you listen to whiners who say "X is too hard!, its not fun!!"
    I agree, the UFO and the robot bosses need a buff, as of right now, they are waay too easy.
     
  7. AdmVenge

    AdmVenge Space Hobo

    That's... a bit inefficient. Just summon him on the deck of the airship. I've done it 3 times now and the pirates kill the penguin saucer in less than 5 seconds. Not going to spend pixels on some crap gun that is going to be obsolete moments after I buy it.
     
  8. Plystire

    Plystire Star Wrangler

    I personally feel the UFO Boss should be an ice breaker to the rest of the game.
    Let's face it, you took the time to literally OP yourself for tier 1, and so the tier 1 boss felt easy. I fought him with nothing but a flame spear, copper goggles, and starter clothes (because iron bow OP in my hands, which I still wouldn't shout to nerf). It still died fast (maybe a couple minutes, but no more than 3), but I wouldn't go running to yell that we should buff him or nerf flame weapons, let alone a flame spear with a dps of 11 that I found in a box near the planets core. As much as I would love it if they buffed him, I just don't think it would suit the majority of people. Right now it's at a place somewhere between hard and easy, and that's where it should be. Maybe finer tuning can be looking at but not an outright buff/nerf. :/

    I agree, though, that shotguns are abysmal. Sniper rifles felt like the only suitable gun as far as energy and fire rate to damage dealt goes. The only other guns I would use are the special ones like flamethrower or grenade launcher. So either bring the sniper rifle down to the level of the others or buff the shotgun definitely and the other non-sniper guns that literally feel they have a dps of 4 being sold at a merchant. I don't want to see merchant guns being OP, as the guns you can find in chests are way better and bought weapons should be about as powerful as crafted weapons. The difference being that you're getting a ranged weapon and you had to go out of your busy day to find a merchant.
     
  9. Bazzyboss

    Bazzyboss Void-Bound Voyager

    I've been anticipating this boss fight for ages, getting a gun, then getting another one, and getting armour, (Knave) and I was so excited, I built up my sky arena, gun in hand, ready for a very exciting match.
    It wasn't. in about 1 and half minute he was dead, all I had to do was run around a bit. And when he did do his crash attack, he took 1 health bar away from me.
    Now, all this anticipating came from when I joined a multiplayer server earlier, I got on, and I was kinda nooby, no armour, wooden hunting bow. So someone had built this house, and had decided to start the fight, 5 of us were there, about 3 with iron bows, 2 with wooden. It took us about 5 minutes to get through one health bar, and also, all the minions were spawning everywhere and the house was being blown up, it was so much fun. I think then, he needed a small nerf, but not what they did to him now.
    So after the fight, feeling disappointed, I went running right, until I saw, this really big Dragon looking thing. By the size of him, I knew he was a miniboss, so I ran close, and in one bite, I was dead. It was so funny after that silly boss fight, so I came back, shooting him with the sniper as he chased, there was genuine fear in me! he could 1 hit kill! And I was running like crazy! It was really intense and fun. (In the end, he jumped behind and bit my face off.)
    To all those saying that he is a starter boss and should be easy, I disagree, I think he should be a jump up in difficulty, after you are done in your tutorial cuddling, you come up to fight the real boss. If people will ragequit, then they shouldn't be playing the game, he should be a boss where you plan, and move and dodge, and you are really having fun! But all I got, was a really low health, low damage, meh boss.
    Hopefully it will be fixed.
    Edit: Miniboss was on my first planet.
     
  10. Pizzarugi

    Pizzarugi Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Thanks for the advice. I was tempted to do that in the first place, but I decided against it moments later and bought the sniper. However, this does prove my point that it's incredibly weak.

    And don't get me wrong, folks. I'm not the hardcore gamer that demands other people to 'get up on my level', but I do believe the game should reward those who prepare themselves to the fullest rather than cater to those who rushed through the game. And since I prepared myself for this fight only to find the boss to be much lower than my expectations, I'm a little disappointed. A boss should be tough, where only those who are tough themselves are able to beat it. This UFO is not tough, not in the slightest.
     
  11. AdmVenge

    AdmVenge Space Hobo

    To be fair, the air pirates intimidate the heck out of me. 15-20 NPCs with guns in one small space, and most of them run up on deck to shoot the saucer. I would liken it to you and 8 or 9 of your friends going after it with guns. I don't think this is a case of the penguin saucer being weak. It seems more likely it is severely out-gunned.
     
  12. Plystire

    Plystire Star Wrangler

    Didn't it reward you? The fight was apparently stupidly easy for your preparation.
    I summoned it with copper armor back when the "ZOMG, UFO OP" rants were going on. They were on my roof, destroying me in very few hits. I was seriously unprepared (then again, I didn't even expect a penguin army and UFO, but I did "prepare"), but I was able to kill it. I agreed it needed a nerf, if only because not everyone had as much fun with it as I did, and other people were literally stuck on it (the poor souls).

    I still think the UFO doesn't do enough terrain damage. I fought him on a slightly inclined hill, and he was never able to reach me when attempting to squash me. All I'd have to do was duck and the very tip of his ship would hit the hill and he couldn't get to me. :/
     
  13. Plystire

    Plystire Star Wrangler

    Haha, yeah, talk about showing up at the wrong place with the wrong intentions. xD
     
  14. Pizzarugi

    Pizzarugi Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Well you caught me on that one. But what other boss fight do you know of that was stupidly easy when you were prepared for it? :p
     
  15. Plystire

    Plystire Star Wrangler

    Pretty much every boss I've ever fought in a game... lol, okay, no, not that many, Dark Souls just wouldn't let me prepare to the point of ez-mode xD
    A game that I like to refer to bosses in is Super Metroid. If you run in as soon as you find the boss, you're likely (for a new player, not a veteran) not going to be well matched against it. But if you took some time to gather up missile and energy tanks, it'll be much easier... in fact, the entire second half of Kraid can be skipped if you went the extra mile and found super missiles, which can almost 1-shot it (normal missile to the face, a couple supers down the hatch).
    I think most bosses SHOULD be at the very least "easy mode" if you came in heavily prepared. :D
     
  16. zhalias33

    zhalias33 Industrial Terraformer

    i would just like to add that i too think the boss need to be a bit harder. not too much, i spent 20 minutes fighting the damn thing before the patch, and still died a few times and had to try again. but now its a fucking cakewalk, i actually felt like i wasted my time waiting so long and getting so geared fighting it. first time i was in full silver(before they changed it to metalwork obviously) with an iron bow and that thing would hit me and take like 3 bars away. now, i have full knave armor(its what is after copper for Glitch) and an iron bow, it took me like 1 minute to beat it. i built a little dirt bunker, and shot up at it same as i did last time. it hit me several times during the fight, i never lost more than 4 bars. it hit like like 5 times, and i lost like 2 or 3 bars of hp. it actually took 2 hits for it to take away 1 bar of hp from me. while i wasnt a fan of it being super hard the first time, i think it is just a little too easy right now, even for the FIRST boss. it does need a little more hp, maybe a tiny bit more damage. definitely not a lot, but it needs a little buff.
     
  17. Joe Chip

    Joe Chip Astral Cartographer

    My issues with guns is that their sounds and bullets are terrible. The futuristic guns available in Terraria are so much better. Like the laser rifle. Right now Starbound has only guns firing what look like little, painfully slow metal thingies and the sound are just embarassing.
     
  18. Plystire

    Plystire Star Wrangler

    Maybe next time, you should come out of your little bunker and fight it like a man. I think balance suggestions should come from people who fought it ... "legitimately (for lack of a better word).
     
  19. Wjyosn

    Wjyosn Aquatic Astronaut

    You miss something Pizzarugi. A very important fact that is biasing your opinion on the boss:
    You knew what was coming and prepared to the best possible extent before fighting him. You weren't using a wooden bow or only a couple pieces of armor, and fighting him withou twarning about what to expect. Of course he's going to be easy if you come at him with the absolute best preparation for the fight in advance. Try fighting him with only 2 pieces of copper armor and a wooden or iron bow and getting hit by each attack once because you don't know his attack patterns yet and he's not nearly as effortless.

    If you're completely prepared for the *first* boss in the game, then yes, he should be near effortless. The first boss of terraria (eye of cthulhu) was silly easy once you know how to fight him and are prepared for him. But the first fight or two, especially if you didn't know what he did, he slaughtered people.
     
  20. Plystire

    Plystire Star Wrangler

    This is a content complaint. I wouldn't get too uppity about it right now. Content expansion/upgrades will be coming later. Right now I think they're focusing on balance of progression. I, too, think they could use some work on some of them (not all of them), but let's wait a bit until they get to work on major content updates. :)
     

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