Beds/tents etc. Discussion

As we've seen from the streams, the beds will slowly heal your character as you sleep in them. I really like this feature, but one thing I don't know if I like is the fact you can take those beds and place them anywhere and heal up in about 10 seconds.

Maybe its already been mentioned somewhere and I missed it (sorry) but I'm not sure if I like that you can do that. It'd probably be better if it was Terraria style in that you can only use a bed if there is a home-styled background and a few blocks around it. I think it would just make exploring too easy, especially with the instant heals we can spam as it is. After every battle, just place down a bed and heal up.

But who knows, tell me what you guys think about it. It has both good and bad things I suppose and I don't have my mind completely made up about it yet

 

Don't worry, that's countered by asshole friends who shoot at your tent every 3 seconds to make sure you can't overuse it.

 

Yeah, if this happens, relationships might get... tents.

 

As cool of a feature they are.... I think I'd rather have them as just something off to the side rather than something essential to the game. I feel like beds, used to heal, would slow down game play.

Now I'm going to offer a suggestion, because we can't just complain and criticize all the time, can we? How about when you sit down to "heal", if you have a table and someone else at the end of said table, you could play a bit of a mini-game with the other player, like poker, goldfish, etc?

I'm just saying, waiting around to heal isn't very fun, at least from my experience.

 

I think it was a pun on "tense"
damn you evil puns...

 

I don't have friends though.

 

What? No, I just meant they might have to get more.

 

Ah, but I did forget to mention one thing. I really like that you can explore and find random tents and beds around. That feels like a nice reward to be able to heal yourself. Like a safe area down in the depths to be able to take a break and hide out for a bit.

But if all beds can just be placed anywhere at all, it kind of makes that reward meaningless and a little less cool. At the same time, at least they don't make you re spawn where you put your bed.

 

Hmmm. Maybe they should nerf tents & beds, but on the other hand, if they make the game difficult enough, you'll practically require full health for every major encounter. It would be no worse than having really good health regen. Hard to say for certain 'til at least beta, when we can get a better feel for it. I suspect you may be right though, especially early in the game, before there are really tough monsters.

 

I think beds should have walls around them but in the case of tents that's kinda the purpose of them is so you have a home away from home so to speak toss it down and heal up and get protection from all the nasty's that bump at night to keep it from being over used you could have it so you can only place it down once or once you pick it up you have to wait a duration of time to set it back down or even takes a few seconds to set it up (cause tents take time to put up after all)

 

maybe you should need to have a slow "putting up the tent" animation, so you cant just plop it down in the middle of battle

 

Well, they heal pretty slowly, and if you try to use one mid fight you'll just get killed in it, so...

 

Sorry... I'm bad at reading sarcasm through text aha...

 

I considered putting sunglasses guy in there to make it obvious.

 

something like that could work a bit. It would make you not want to spam the tent as much, but at the same time people will probably feel required to take a tent with them into higher level planets. It would really slow down the pace of the game since you'll have a hard time getting through and constantly need to set up a tent and sleep before every battle.

It might be better just to not let them work underground and what not in general, but we'll have to see what happens with it.

 

Tiy mentioned somewhere that he was considering implementing a system in which you could not use a bed/tent/etc while there are hostiles nearby. This would prevent rest-healing during a battle (although he did mention that resting with a monster nearby somewhat already prevents it because you will likely get attacked while sleeping and will be hurt faster than sleeping heals). It would be undesirable if all beds had to be in a proper "room" in order to function, since a tent is designed specifically for sleep shelter in the wild. Therefore, it would probably be better if you simply couldn't heal in one if you were near enemies. Perhaps an alternative system could be that a bed that is actually placed in a proper room would heal much faster than one not in a room. This way tents could still be used but would not be as effective as a bed indoors. This in addition to not healing with enemies nearby would probably alleviate many of the concerns people have been having.

 

^ that could also work pretty well. Clear out an area, and you can reward yourself with a tent. The only problem with it I see is that monsters look like they respawn an awful lot, but if its anything like Minecraft, what you could do is just clear out a good section of a cave and place torches everywhere to stop em from coming and make a tent.

Yeah, I think that'd work. I like that