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  1. nukes327

    nukes327 Void-Bound Voyager

    The Spears appear to have lost their names. Not sure if that's one of my mods freaking out or this mod missing the names now.
     

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  2. awareqwx

    awareqwx Cosmic Narwhal

    Ryuu accidentally put some new files in the 0.11.1 update. They're still fully functional, and if you REALLY wanted to you could use an inventory editor to rename it.
     
  3. Ehksidian

    Ehksidian Spaceman Spiff

    Maybe that's because he's in pure agony? I mean, it's hard to speak and/or type if you're in godawful pain.
    also the spear issue is known, they work still but I think it's something to do with Ryuujin leaving something in while fiddling around...? I need to find that quote...
     
  4. Kn4ck3br0d37

    Kn4ck3br0d37 Big Damn Hero

    Damn it, I thought my picture edit was a bit funnier than "no reaction" funny. Oh well.

    Question: when it comes to Avali names, do they prefer names starting with certain letters?

    Do they use hyphens a lot? Do they like to have names with apostrophes in them?
     
  5. Marxon

    Marxon Supernova

    You 3 and your private server, I now see why you guys only joined on our server once, there's something you just cannot get in a server once it reaches a certain size I guess...
     
  6. awareqwx

    awareqwx Cosmic Narwhal

    Judging by the namegen sheet, there seems to be an imbalance in names starting with R, and they all appear to be 1-word names. However, IIRC Ryuu said that list wasn't exactly canon, but it's really the only existing list at the moment.

    Well, the nanites were suspended in morphine, so I don't see why he would be.
     
  7. Icebelly

    Icebelly Weight of the Sky

    4 actually.
    Levrix, Jet, Quilavabom and I.
     
  8. Quilavabom

    Quilavabom Oxygen Tank

    Couldn't be helped; sticky notes don't give you a lot of room :p I can cover the entire drawing with my index and middle fingers. Well, not counting the cushion.
     
  9. Ehksidian

    Ehksidian Spaceman Spiff

    That actually brings up a question...
    How effective-if at all-would human sedative drugs be on Avali? I would suspect not at all, due to the extremely different biologies.
     
  10. Marxon

    Marxon Supernova

    *JEALOUSY INTENSIFIES*
    I really want to know what you have that we don't, whatever it is it must be worth having. Some mod we haven't added? something else? Is it merely friendship?
     
  11. thakyZ

    thakyZ Cosmic Narwhal

    I just googled the last word in that pic and well lucky me that no one saw it...
     
  12. Jetpack725

    Jetpack725 Guest

    Friendship is Magical! :p

    (HAD TO)
     
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  13. RyuujinZERO

    RyuujinZERO Supernova

    The moar you know (and wish you didn't).

    Avali have avian anatomy...
     
  14. Ehksidian

    Ehksidian Spaceman Spiff

    this brings back so many horrible memories of talking to someone who was obsessed with...those.
    *shudder*
     
  15. awareqwx

    awareqwx Cosmic Narwhal

    I'm gonna go with "not at all"

    "Morphine is one of the most famous painkillers. It’s an opioid drug which means it’s a cousin of the ancient drug opium, which has been used socially and in medicine thousands of years. These drugs bind to the opioid receptors which are on the surface of nerve cells and that sets off a chain of chemical reactions inside the cell which ultimately causes the cell membrane to be less excitable."

    Basically, you need that special kind of receptor for it to have any effect, and the probability of the avali having a compatible analogue is mathematically impossible.
     
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  16. J_Mourne

    J_Mourne Pangalactic Porcupine

    Nanites! Are Avali nanites hard or soft nanotech?

    ....

    When I've written stories involving the wonders of nanotechnology, my general rule of thumb has always been: nanotech can't do anything that chemical reactions can't; it'll just do it better. The reasons for this are quite interesting. Nanotechnology is small. To be effective you've got to make lots and lots of it. This means that nanotechnology can only be as sophisticated as you can produce by reacting the proper materials under carefully controlled circumstances (you don't assemble it; you either make it as a batch of chemical or let it put itself together like a cellular organism). Nanotechnology also can't have any processing power that isn't networked (Networked nanotechnology isn't feasible either, see below). Proper nanotech is simply too small to "program" like a computer or a robot. Nanotechnology can't rely on batteries either! Again the difficulty is size. You can't fit a worthwhile battery into something not much larger than a protein (incidentally, the use of proteins is a viable way to "program" nanotech and to get it to move inside a body). This restriction on batteries combined with the small size cripples any hope you have of creating a nanite that can broadcast information, even to other nanites.

    Even if you find away around these restrictions, using energetic, 'thinking' nanites will cook you from inside. Any energetic action will generate waste heat, and with no-where for that heat to go, you'll essentially be constantly running a high fever. Particularly energetic action could even kill you.

    Self-assembling nanotech? Possible, but not so useful as you'd think. We basically have them already in the form of beneficial bacteria. (Anyone who believes in a "grey-goo" scenario has watched too much soft science fiction.)

    So what would realistic nanotech look like? Probably the next face of medicines. Nanotech protein coats on drugs so that they get where they're needed and kick in faster, artificial hemoglobin equivalents to allow people to survive drowning (incidentally, oxygenated nanite-infused blood does not shut down your urge to gulp in water; it just means you won't pass out). Even energetic nanites are possible, after a fashion, if they're controlled within a hospital or laboratory with magnetic fields.

    Real nanites aren't robots or machines. Nanotech is really a materials science, not a mechanical science.

    ....

    Now we need to make an assumption: there are multiple strains (designs, compositions, whatever) of nanites all referred to by the name "Guardian Nanites." Some boost immune system response, others seek out tumors, others staunch mild bleeding, others improve the concentration of methane in the bloodstream to delay asphyxiation, etc.

    With that that is out of the way, what are Avali guardian-class nanites? They self-reproduce, which is vital for extended use, otherwise the kidneys and liver would flush them out of the system eventually. They are capable of assisting the immune system response, a function that is difficult, but possible, with the proper elemental molecules and some clever protein coats. Detecting and isolating tumors sounds like pretty soft science fiction, but is actually an application of nanotechnology currently under research, again using clever abuse of how the body handles proteins. Though the nanites wouldn't be able to communicate with the implanted medical chip Avali recieve with their guardian nanites, it is possible that the chip could measure concentrations of tumor-hunting nanites. An unusually low concentration would probably mean that a tumor has developed and attracted the appropriate nanites to its location.

    Now things get tricky. Cleansing and expelling infected material is a role already done to some degree by the immune system, so it's not too hard to believe that nanotech could assist with that by being directed to sites of swelling along with extra white blood cells or their equivalents. Stopping hemorrhages is trickier. Hemorraging is possible for the same reason that blood doesn't usually clot inside your veins, and so 'programming' nanites with their stupid little material-property-driven systems to tell the difference is very difficult. Auto-suturing severed arteries gets incredibly difficult. It is difficult for something as subtle as a nanite to create a macroscale event like cutting off blood flow.

    While the normal blend of nanites may be unable to staunch heavy bleeding, it is entirely plausible that the implanted Avali medical chip can trigger the release of special coagulant nanites in the event of traumatic injury or shock. Having such nanites in the bloodstream at all times would be undesirable (increased potential for strokes and heart attacks) but would be very handy in the event of a crisis.

    ....

    While difficult, it is plausible that the Avali use hard nanotech. Of course, the rest of Starbound doesn't, so this exercise is mostly just because I like to say things that have a veneer of scientific plausibility.
     
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2014
  17. RyuujinZERO

    RyuujinZERO Supernova

    As awareqwx says, it probably would do nothing whatsoever.

    SCIENCE LESSON TIME!

    Your body uses a variety of chemical signals in order to operate; muscles use a chemical signal to know when to contract or expand, the neurons in your brain release chemicals which tell other neurons when to fire, or adjust the tendancy of a signal to be accepted. These chemical signals are recieved by specialised structures known as "receptors". They're essentially a molecular lock, and the molecular 'shape' of the chemical which activates them fits into the receptor like a key.

    Many forms of drug; especially the recreational or pain killing drugs - are synthetic chemicals which share all or part of the molecular "key", causing parts of the brain to fire unxpectedly - or sometimes they are only a partial fit, but consequently "block up" the receptor, preventing it's activation (Such as in painkillers)

    Now, as you see drugs and receptors work like a molecular lock and key. As such, an alien life form like the avali are unlikely to share ANY receptor functionality with humans, so a drug designed to block pain receptors in humans, will almost certainly fail to block the pain receptors on an avali.
     
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  18. Quilavabom

    Quilavabom Oxygen Tank

    In my case, it's time and introversion. Meeting new people actually makes me tired. And I'm usually tired to start with... That's the short answer, anyway. If its any consolation, I'd show up more often if I had more time and energy, and there are a few people on the public server that I'd be interested in meeting. Maybe on a weekend sometime I'll drop by.
     
  19. Ehksidian

    Ehksidian Spaceman Spiff

    i got SCIENCE'D, BITCH by two people.
    i feel incredibly dumb now.
    But now my idiotic brain is bringing something else up. Would pure water have a scent to Avali? To humans, it's odorless because we're surrounded by it in the form of vapor, but would it have a smell to Avali, akin to how humans smell ammonia?
    not important but eh. the more you know.
    AND KNOWING IS HALF THE BAT-*shot*
     
  20. Deathedge736

    Deathedge736 Giant Laser Beams

    bullets just follow wherever you go, don't they?
     
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