Modding Discussion Avali 1.0 Reboot Discussion

Discussion in 'Starbound Modding' started by RyuujinZERO, Aug 11, 2016.

  1. bAv

    bAv Void-Bound Voyager

    Ayy, there's that shortcut to the lower bay. I was starting to think you ignored my post. I thank you in advance for the convenience.
    So I checked the wiki for the other races' ships, and this seems to be as big as a Falcon-class or Eagle-class ship, judging from the size of the rooms. Will there be anything in the lower left side of the ship? Not that I'm complaining, Avali are all about being light and compact and it seems pretty big enough as it is.

    White/blue and white/orange are good combos but I'm not too sure about white/blue/orange, since blue and orange are complimentary colors and there would be a lot of contrast. Yet again, the wiki says that the Avali's vision is poor and they have a lot of heavily contrasting colors, so I guess we'll just have to see how it turns out.
    [EDIT] I just remembered that the Maliwan guns from Borderlands commonly use white/blue/orange in their color schemes, so I guess it actually could work, lel.

    Ooh. So are Avali just some general OCs you had, or were they originally created for something else?
     
  2. Firebird Zoom

    Firebird Zoom Oxygen Tank

    I think they started in Spore
     
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  3. Railgunner2160

    Railgunner2160 Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    From what I remember of the lore from the wiki, the Avali mainly use drone ships as the bulk of their fleet. Given that the smaller combat drones likely lack things like FTL drives & other non-combat systems a few larger Transport/Carrier class ships make sense from a logistical standpoint.

    Who's to say the ship the avali player has isn't one of those, or a civilian modified version meant for cargo/Conversion. Given it's going to have the same space as a T8 ship I don't think players will notice any slight size differences...
     
  4. bAv

    bAv Void-Bound Voyager

    HA, that makes too much sense, now that I think about it. I remember making a handful of my species for my own game out of Spore many years ago. I miss that game.

    While that does make sense, it still is slightly smaller than the vanilla ships.
    Oh well, Avali are like 3ft tall anyways, it would make sense for them to have smaller ships.
     
  5. RyuujinZERO

    RyuujinZERO Supernova

    Actually you were right first time, they were an original race. They started out before Spore as a sort've philosophical musing on how alien cultures might differ/reflecting on some of the weird psychological baggage humans have due to their development societally and historically, and how an alien from a vastly different environment might interpret that environment, and more familiar ones.. Their appearancecae about while joking whether dinosaurs might've developed higher intelligence and we'd never have known as after this long, any trace of their civilization, especially if it never reached digital age tech or beyond, would've been long since destroyed by nature. (The 3ft long bambiraptor had opposable thumbs and a brain comparable in size to modern corvids!). The idea of knee-high intelligent fluffy raptors hit off immediatly xD

    About 2 hours ago :p
     
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  6. zetaPRIME

    zetaPRIME Pangalactic Porcupine

    Space combat could certainly be done; just look at Mazebound64, even the renderer for that is written in nothing but Lua!

    ... Hmm.
     
  7. WatcherCCG

    WatcherCCG Giant Laser Beams

    Did CF actually release the LUA for the arcade programming, though? I remember they wanted to let people build their own but that seemed to get forgotten like a lot of things during the Koala/Giraffe transition.
     
  8. zetaPRIME

    zetaPRIME Pangalactic Porcupine

    Unpacked assets: objects/generic/arcadegame/
     
  9. Joneithevius

    Joneithevius Subatomic Cosmonaut

    There's a mod that adds a side scroller shooter to an arcade machine, so I'd think so.
     
  10. Shaadaris

    Shaadaris Giant Laser Beams

    If this isn't going to be an outfit craftily hidden somewhere in an Avali mission, I will be disappoint.
     
  11. GeminiFlame

    GeminiFlame Void-Bound Voyager

    So dumb and possibly tedious random idea for the reboot of Avali; making the mod technically 2-3 different races in one, all functionally identical Avali but each is a different Tribe or tribe-type with its own aesthetics (even just simple palette swaps and color schemes of gear and such), stylistic choices (one might be the dull and muted "stock avali", the other might be an eccentric dyed avali setup and a third might be more like raider/tribal type aesthetics) and possibly even quirks (sorta like how the Novakid can only craft guns) as a sort of flavor choice for players.
     
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  12. Scival

    Scival Oxygen Tank

    You know we have color options, right?
    And if someone wants to take the choice to only craft guns, then they'll only craft guns.
     
  13. Shaadaris

    Shaadaris Giant Laser Beams

    This would, unfortunately, be extremely exasperating to do, as every change to every file would have to be copied over and subsequently edited in order to work with each of the individual "races."
     
  14. SCN-3_<NULL>

    SCN-3_<NULL> Pangalactic Porcupine

    So only Shaad, Mourne, Quil and Silver(Edit of 23/8, +Ehks) are back here from the old mod discussion(and subsequent rubbish clan threads, not exactly counting the Triage)? well yeah really interested to hearing from Ryuu again, and maybe pick up a skill or two before I finally decide to revive the mehcanian mod, wont be rallying the remaining fragment and yes I need that shark costume.

    Also the Frigate design, by the looks of it it might be the last ship upgrade in line, it would be cool if one can change the layout of the ship without breaking any background tiles or player placed objects/tiles, but I guess that's starbound's limitation, rather ingenious on your side managing to retain the previous tier's shape(keeping the teletporter's/teleporter room position). Also speaking of teleporters if I recall correctly teleportation is not canon in avali lore so I'd guess they drop down with a drop pod but back up with a fulton recovery balloon/device or a very small shuttle?(not sure about editing the teleport sprite though, heard from Shaad that it's just color edit rather than custom sprite for each vanilla race))
     
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  15. Scival

    Scival Oxygen Tank

    Yeah, suuure. They don't have teleportation technology. Because they couldn't buy ONE teleporter and reverse engineer it? Or just BUY the technology to make them?
     
  16. Ser-matticus

    Ser-matticus Big Damn Hero

    If any race was willing to sell that type of tech to anyother it would a one for one exchange, and reading the factions page makes think the illuminate government ain't to keen on doing that regardless if they get something out of it.

    (Edit) they might but i highly doubt it, look at some of their stuff, it might easily surpass most versions of other races tech.

    Also if ryuu had his way you'd most likely land the ship versus leave it in orbit and beam down.. There is that mod that lets you land em but you need a really massive and flat area to put it, which usually has you beaming down to dig said area out
     
  17. Scival

    Scival Oxygen Tank

    Oh yeah, that reminds me... I'd like to see that T8 frigate damaged but landed at the protectorate academy on that tiny pad. o3o
    Maybe it could be hovering besides it with a little bridge or something.
     
  18. YellowDemonHurlr

    YellowDemonHurlr Ketchup Robot

    Teleportation tech is ubiquitous in the Starbound universe. I'm sure there would be someone willing to sell it (looking at you, Penguin Pete). In any case, I doubt it needs any special justification.
    There is? That sounds super-useful, could you tell me the name of this mod?
     
  19. Scival

    Scival Oxygen Tank

    I think he means that box thing that just pastes in a bunch of blocks vaguely resembling a ship with a bunch of ship pieces on it and it's just like "Hey, look. You landed your ship. :)"
     
  20. Ancev Caine

    Ancev Caine Existential Complex

    Honestly the Protectorate start for every race is one of the least fun things about Starbound 1.0. It was ok at first, but now I just skip the intro.
     
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