August 18th - More Manipulation

Discussion in 'Dev Blog' started by metadept, Aug 18, 2014.

  1. Sageheart

    Sageheart Subatomic Cosmonaut

    I like this idea. As much as I love drills, I felt like my MM was just collecting dust as soon as I got it. Now, the starting weapons need to have a upgrade path as well :D
     
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  2. Jabberwok

    Jabberwok Phantasmal Quasar

    This is a good idea, and I'm glad it will be used for liquid collection, too.
    After upgrading, will the digging area be selectable? One of the reasons I keep using it is because it's more precise than a pick or drill.
    I also wonder how this is going to affect the progression of the other digging tools.
     
  3. WorkHorse

    WorkHorse Subatomic Cosmonaut

    Oh yeah baby!
     
  4. OmniGeoff

    OmniGeoff Weight of the Sky

    I'm liking how you're thinking. As fast as the 5x5 Matter manipulator is, if there's something that tops it in mining speed (which is already pretty fast), could there be something like mass mining in the near future?
    And concerning mass mining, will a large supply of materials come to play and become of importance in the later game?
     
  5. holymou

    holymou Phantasmal Quasar

    <3
    One thought to add:
    Since it is a laser, would shift-clicking it to one square increase its block breakdown speed?
     
  6. Garatgh Deloi

    Garatgh Deloi Master Astronaut

    I dont think its a laser, it dosent behave laser'ish.
     
  7. holymou

    holymou Phantasmal Quasar

    What is it then?
     
  8. Garatgh Deloi

    Garatgh Deloi Master Astronaut

    A matter manipulator xD. It dosent explain how it does the manipulation, but i cant realy imagine it being lasers.
     
  9. Xylia

    Xylia Tiy's Beard

    YESSSSSSSS

    Now maybe it won't take us 5 million years to dig through a solid stone wall that we tend to run into quite often in Live. Even with a diamond tool, it takes _forever_ to punch through Stone, let alone Magmarock or Obsidian....
     
  10. holymou

    holymou Phantasmal Quasar

    I still think there is logic in what I suggested though, regardless of whether it behaves like a laser according to our technology or not. :)
     
  11. Halon

    Halon Phantasmal Quasar

    Finally! I really loved the concept of the matter manipulator, so the Idea that it was the "wood-punching" level tool was rather confusing. On a note with the upgrades, one of them could be the unique ability to move fluids. Making it different from using the pickaxe or drills would increase its useage.
     
  12. Garatgh Deloi

    Garatgh Deloi Master Astronaut

    Yea thats true, no matter what kind of space magic it uses (force fields? bending reality? bullcrap?) it could probably be said to be more focused on a smaller surface (if it works well ingame).
     
  13. apelikejay

    apelikejay Void-Bound Voyager

    I have been playing with this, leveling up new from two days ago and I have to say it's pretty spot on... the pick/drill is always faster but the MM is no slouch (currently at rank 2 on both power and coverage--platinum drill is a bit faster, noticeably...).

    Two recommendations... 1) a hotkey for MM is a must!... and 2) some way to change the coverage area of the MM, other than just 1 and max... 1 and max works fine for when it maxes at 3 but I'm leery of upgrading to 4 and 5 if it means I can't fine tune... even just a second hotkey -- the one now for size 1 and a second hotkey for size 3, when the size is upped to 4+... just a thought. It would be nice, but not essential... the hoykey for the MM is essential!

    Otherwise it's working damned near perfect... it by no means obsoletes the axe/drill and it has made the MM useful.
     
  14. Tazmaniac95

    Tazmaniac95 Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    "Players will be able to upgrade the area, digging power, and other numerical aspects of the Matter Manipulator as well as enabling new harvesting options such as liquid collection. Hopefully, this should make it a satisfying tool in your character’s arsenal and even offer a bit of customization to suit your play style." -metadept

    so yes this ability is confirmed.
     
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  15. AdenSword

    AdenSword Pangalactic Porcupine

    YES! I was planning on modding something like this if the game came out and it never changed.

    Here's how I would have had it work.

    The mod would start out being practically just a texture pack that changes all pickaxes to matter manipulators. Then I would have liked to add more than just stone-diamond. Other metals and a whole bunch of stuff. Don't have time to type it out atm. Will do later.
     
  16. Jackw13

    Jackw13 Void-Bound Voyager

    Who needs drills or pickaxes if you just have the god-tool in your pocket at all times?
    That sounded dirty...
     
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  17. Astasia

    Astasia Pangalactic Porcupine

    Honestly of all the updates and previews you have listed over the past few months, this is the one I am most excited about. Don't listen to the all the naysayers, there is no way a pickaxe should ever be better at anything than a futuristic tool designed specifically to manipulate matter on an atomic level. I disagree with others that it's a "general" or "jack of all trades" tool and should be weaker than the specialized tools. The MM is a specialized tool, it's specialized in manipulating matter, fully repaired/upgraded it should put any other mere digging tool to shame. Maybe it's broken at first and we have to repair and upgrade it to the advanced functionality, maybe that includes a lot of resources to balance it and give other tools a reason for existing early on, but it should definitely be the ultimate tool eventually.
     
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  18. Alec5h

    Alec5h Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    I approve! ;):lickitung:
     
  19. RodgerDodger

    RodgerDodger Phantasmal Quasar

    God bless you great people. I cannot wait for the big finish!!! :)
     
  20. Archinois

    Archinois Subatomic Cosmonaut

    I am one who agrees with this perhaps make it a tiny bit weaker thanthe diamond pick at tiers 1-2 and tier 3 it becomes equa| in abi|itys since we can craft diamond stuff right away if we have the materia|s then same pattern for the dri||s for 4-5 and 6 it matches the diamond dri|| and then for 7-8 same dea| for whatever too| they make (|aser dri||?) and fina||Y at tier 10 it becomes the Advanced Manipu|ator better than a|| previous too|s.
     

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