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Apex ships should be less futuristic, more retro. (Please read, especially devs!)

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by Knight9910, Dec 10, 2013.

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What do you think of this?

  1. The Apex are perfect the way they are.

    73.3%
  2. The Apex need to be the steampunk race.

    2.2%
  3. The Apex should be more retro, but not steampunk.

    17.2%
  4. I really don't care. In fact, why am I even voting here at all?

    5.6%
  5. I have a different idea. (Please explain in thread.)

    1.7%
  1. Knight9910

    Knight9910 Existential Complex

    As the title says, I think the Apex ships should be less futuristic looking and more retro. Simply put, the Apex aesthetic is NOT "sleek and high tech". Go visit an Apex settlement on any planet and you get a drab, brick-and-concrete, 1930's feel. Only the Apex secret science labs have the sleek and futuristic stuff, and honestly I don't like that either.

    I would love to see those Apple iLabs replaced by more fitting retro science labs, full of tesla coils and jacob's ladders like something out of Bride of Frankenstein. (they've already got brains in jars, so why not?) And maybe we could make their ships something more like... this!

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    Alternately, we could make the Apex the steampunk race. I would LOVE a steampunk race in this game, and the Apex are already like 75% of the way there. We could fill their laboratories and spaceships with brass and steam pipes and boilers!
     
  2. Razey

    Razey The One Who Writes (Starbound)

    Remember that the Apex are divided; Miniknog and regular Apex. The regular Apex are kept from the technologically impressive stuff because OPPRESSION. If you read the starter codex documents for the Apex, you'll find out the ship was a Miniknog ship originally.
     
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  3. Felonious

    Felonious Existential Complex

    Not quite. You're not riding in a civilian ship. The Apex story is you've stolen a Miniknog ship, which is very "sleek and futuristic". Go look at their science facilities and "Thought Reassignment" facilities. I'm not even sure the civilians are allowed space travel, so it makes sense. As for the Steampunk idea, I think it would require a new race entirely, and I think the Novakid will probably be closer.

    Changing the aesthetic of Miniknog would require too much lore change. I like my oppressed monkeys.
     
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  4. Knight9910

    Knight9910 Existential Complex

    That's true, but I would still like to see them have a more retro look. I really think this game NEEDS at least one race to have such a look. Currently there's none. Every race's aesthetic is either "super ancient" (avian, floran, glitch), "sleek and high tech" (human, apex), or "fish" (hylotl).
     
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  5. Felonious

    Felonious Existential Complex

    I don't know if I'd consider the Hylotl high-tech looking. Their ships are very ornamental to me, which fits more with the "super ancient" idea. Floran ships certainly don't look ancient, as they're converted Apex ships.
     
  6. CondrioidViking

    CondrioidViking Big Damn Hero

    I tell you what they need to be, they need to be more Neanderthals like.
     
  7. Knight9910

    Knight9910 Existential Complex

    Also, I imagine the Novakids riding around in steam-powered space-locomotives. Please tell me they get space-trains!
     
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  8. Shadow86

    Shadow86 Pangalactic Porcupine

    For some reason, I remember seeing Novakids dressed like cowboys somewhere. So that might be a possibility.

    Doc Brown's final, funky train time machine in Back to the Future III comes to mind as well. :p
     
  9. Lotho

    Lotho Intergalactic Tourist

    I think you mean primitive? Retro isn't the right word here.
     
  10. Jetter

    Jetter Subatomic Cosmonaut

    Ya. Civilian apex have a retro look, all the Miniknog stuff (like your ship) is sleek and shiny. As for the Novakids, western+steampunk would be pretty awesome.
     
  11. Knight9910

    Knight9910 Existential Complex

    Why would the Apex designs look primitive and neanderthalish? I don't get what you're saying.

    Well, I still think it would be good. You could make their technology look more retro without changing their lore. Simply put, the Miniknog are still the only ones with access to high technology. They're the ones with computers and laboratories and other crazy things, but instead of that technology looking like something made by Apple, it looks more like Edison - tesla coils, vacuum tubes, and crackling wires, rather than sleek white cabinets and flat screen monitors.

    I get that the massive aesthetic difference is used to emphasize the difference in tech level between regular Apex and Miniknog, but I don't think you need to go that far to accomplish that goal. Also, as mentioned, I REALLY think this game NEEDS at least one race with a retro aesthetic. Currently it has none.
     
  12. Nyarly

    Nyarly Space Spelunker

    Apex are evolved humans. Their tech aesthetic is fine.
     
  13. Casia

    Casia Subatomic Cosmonaut

    you do understand the Apex are 1984 meets Planet of the Apes. directly. their art and science design reflecting that time period sci fi aesthetic makes alot of sense.
     
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  14. Canaris

    Canaris Void-Bound Voyager

    Floran ships are Apex ships covered in vines and such. So they're pretty high-tech.
     
  15. SputnikYuri

    SputnikYuri Space Spelunker

    I think your wish will come true when the Novakids are implemented. They are sort of a wild wild west meets gaspunk idea. It says in the lore that because of their wickedly short attention spans, the technological research is limited. So...ok your wish isn't going to come true.

    I think you're right, there is sort of a gap there. The Glitch race seems most ready to have steampunk assets tacked on to it.

    And don't forget, lore permitting, the developers may want to design different technological ages of races.
     
  16. Bumber

    Bumber Pangalactic Porcupine

    Do want. :monkey:
     
  17. Darklight

    Darklight Oxygen Tank

    Haha hell no
     
  18. ralifur

    ralifur Space Hobo

    to OP.

    I see where you are going with this and I also kinda understand why but I really like the apex ship the way it is so its gonna be a no from me. :-(
     
  19. Ryowyn

    Ryowyn Space Spelunker

    Woah, pretty obvious poll. Which I agree with.
     
  20. Knight9910

    Knight9910 Existential Complex

    Yeah, I guess it's pretty obvious from the poll what the majority opinion is. I guess the Miniknog tech doesn't look THAT bad, but still.

    Well, maybe we'll get a nice retro aesthetic put onto a future race. That'd be cool.
     
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2013

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