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Anyone Else Hate the Floran's Personality?

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by jarfox, Aug 7, 2014.

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  1. Akado

    Akado Oxygen Tank

    That's why there is a universal translator, to help humans and Floran speak and understand the words coming out of their mouths.

    However, Floran culture is alien (different) from Human culture, so it's kinda natural that Humans don't understand why Florans are the way that they are. Just like how US citizens were labelled as "Ugly Americans" for traveling to new places but not being respectful of the local culture, you know?
     
  2. Fibriel Solaer

    Fibriel Solaer Space Kumquat

    Now you're just rambling. I don't even know what you're trying to say.

    The point is, Florans need more indepth lore because they are the cornerstone of the game and, as I understand it, are at war with every other species, particularly the Hylotl.
     
  3. Garatgh Deloi

    Garatgh Deloi Master Astronaut

    "the player" is a human sitting infront of a computer screen, the avatar you use within the game is a alien. Its kinda ludicrous to think that a human would understand aliens (in real life, if there are aliens).

    That said, its off course necessary for a player to have some basic understanding of his/her avatar in a game (its one of those cases where gameplay trumphs logic/reality/etc).
     
  4. Fibriel Solaer

    Fibriel Solaer Space Kumquat

    Uuuuh not really. Not any more awkward than it is for humans to understand other human cultures - the only reason they don't is because they don't want to. Finding excuses to hate other people is one of the founding elements of humanity.
     
  5. Akado

    Akado Oxygen Tank

    If you really think that humanity is based on hatred, then that's a pretty dark outlook you've got on life. Hopefully you find some good things in the next nightly that cheer you up.

    But I don't see how that has anything to do with Floran personality. They only hate Hylotl, everyone else is merely a tasty treat.
     
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  6. Garatgh Deloi

    Garatgh Deloi Master Astronaut

    Comparing a completely different lifeform evolved in a unknown ecosystem to different ethnicities of our own species is like first comparing two different kind of pears (ethnicities) then a pear and a space ship (human-aliens).

    Why would a alien race (that have developed in a whole different eco system then humanity) even have a mind remotely similar to a humans (if they excist irl)?

    But anyway, lets drop this discussion, its going way off topic (feel free to reply in pm's if you wish to continue).
     
  7. J-block

    J-block Pay it Forward

    If I said "You suck" and you got mad at me for it, does that mean I did something well? I'll answer that for you before you use some other kind of wrong reasoning.
    The answer is no. Now I'm not saying the Floran aren't well designed (even though I hate them the most, those butt rubbing plant-life) but you can't use the reasoning you gave to say they are.

    And if I was a dog I would still speak like a dog. You don't translate communication into perfect english, which is how the Floran seemed to have evolved, speaking only the bare necessities of English
     
  8. Fibriel Solaer

    Fibriel Solaer Space Kumquat

    Florans are not dogs (other than being about as smart as them.) They are animate semi-plant hominids with language.
     
  9. J-block

    J-block Pay it Forward

    And that is how they speak. I didn't say Floran were dogs, it was a comparison to make.
    I guess using another human language would have been a different comparison to make, however Floran aren't humans either so the comparison actually works less.
     
  10. Fibriel Solaer

    Fibriel Solaer Space Kumquat

    Florans are pretty much just really stupid humans. They're not that different from what happens if you leave a group of humans stranded on an island for a couple of decades, other than being green. Ever read Lord of the Flies?
     
  11. The | Suit

    The | Suit Agent S. Forum Moderator

    I wouldn't be so sure about that.
    Traveling the world - or even being brought up in a multicultural area, it becomes readily apparent each portion of the world handles English differently. Which is where you get many stereotypes on pronunciations.

    With that said and done - these pronunciations have essentially created hatred toward certain groups. In other words an emotional response toward dialects.
    A writer - actors - game designer, in order to bring that same connection in which society has toward a group of people essentially places it in such a way people connect to that concept differently.

    Some people hate it - some people love it. It is a natural human reaction which means it has been successful.
    So yes - my assessment would still be quite right.

    But you know, good show to you to.
     
  12. jambox5

    jambox5 Big Damn Hero

    not a floran fan either. I always play human or Apex. I enjoy the Apex armors, but the Human ship is good
     
  13. TheFudgement

    TheFudgement Ketchup Robot

    I've never played as Floran character, but I certainly know how they act and speak. I think they're just fine in the way they are, the idea of plants eating flesh, while usually fleshy creatures are those who eat plants. Other races of Starbound are more or less.. Civilized, and Florans have the role of being the least civilized ones. And that's what makes them fun, their brutality.
     
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  14. Lintton

    Lintton Guest

    A tribal society uplifted by technology doesn't get "civil" overnight, nor is civilization simply one outlook. Floran societies simply value different things in life. One man's stupidity is another's time honored tradition, and a third's code as a member of society.

    And while the story mode hasn't been shown totally to us yet. They are a piece of it, but its importance is based on the character's POV.
     
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  15. Fibriel Solaer

    Fibriel Solaer Space Kumquat

    Too bad Florans have had millenia; they're just idiots and badly written.
     
  16. Lintton

    Lintton Guest

    Nope, they are a group of hunting societies with a much bigger bowl to play in. Same as the space priests and space vegans.

    Not all floran societies have the same aggression either, something I hope gets played with in game.
     
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  17. TheFudgement

    TheFudgement Ketchup Robot

    Florans aren't "Idiots", just an alien species that has different brains, senses and origins than other races.

    And, jellyfishes for example, have been around for some time now, and they don't build hi-tech laser weapons or even possess working limbs. Florans have had millenia or so, but I don't think evolution works in the same way for every living creature in the universe.
     
  18. FunAsylum

    FunAsylum Subatomic Cosmonaut

    Or maybe they're meant to be idiots?
     
  19. Archer

    Archer Spaceman Spiff

    I think they're pretty cute because of the way they speak, they kinda come across to me like curious young beings that are eager to explore the adventurous world around them (when playing em), with an obsession for stabbing things though.

    The whole spiritual theme seems to be already taken by the Avians, I think it's better to keep each race very distinct, which is largely the case right now.
     
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  20. Garatgh Deloi

    Garatgh Deloi Master Astronaut

    Hmm.

    How is their behavior idiotic?

    Is violence realy "idiotic" (from the perspective of a species as a whole)? Just look at human history of violence, it has forced us to evolve greatly in short timespans (I have never been in a war myself so my view is guaranteed to be naive. I know that war is horrible, since i have been taught that it is, hell on earth, etc. But from a strictly pragmatic view).

    Sure, there are plenty of downsides (for example the threat of our species extinction from our own aggresive behavior), but many of those are kinda negated by interstellar colonization (one planet destroyed isent the end of the species).

    The Floran species seem to be thriving from what i can tell.

    If anything the Hylotl's pacifism is idiotic, non aggression has never been a good survival trait.
     
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