Antimatter!

Discussion in 'Blocks and Crafting' started by DNAY!, Apr 20, 2013.

  1. DNAY!

    DNAY! Ketchup Robot

    Not everything in a game has to be exactly like in real-life. That would make the game very, very hard and boring.
     
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  2. XANi

    XANi Big Damn Hero

    Doesn't matter, because it is very compressed and efficient fuel.

    If you have to carry a huge backpack (in game equivalent : 1/3 of backpack filled with energy ammo) to power your turbo lazer gun, swapping that for one small cell of antimatter is very beneficial, even if you have to use most of your ship's power to recharge it. Also, bombs.

    If you would accelerate it to high speed, moving most of the explosions in direction on target and add some front shielding it could make some nifty plasma-flamethrower, with added "explode any solid matter" feature. Air is not that dense so probably it would just "burn" but if suddenly hits solid matter... BAM

    Also, depends "what type" of antimatter it would be, if antimatter would be just "anti" version of atoms it would be very volatile, the more the heavier anti-atoms would be. shooting anti-hydrogen would most likely just make flamethrower, trying to shoot anti-lead would probably kill the shooter. And shooting just sub-atom particles like positrons or antiprotons would most likely work like laser as they would rarely collide with air
     
  3. DNAY!

    DNAY! Ketchup Robot

    LOL!
     
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  4. SelfAwareChimp

    SelfAwareChimp Industrial Terraformer

    Yeah you pretty much proved that when you said Neutrons have an opposite charge... Cmon dude, you must know they have an overall charge of 0, it's like the first thing you are taught in school when you learn about them.

    On another note, I think Antimatter is gimmick-y because it doesn't have the same aura of mystery that it had when it was used in Sci-Fi in the 60-80's. It's like that trope of Unobtainium that you practically reference for me by saying it is only collected in 2-5 blocks in very rare solar flares.
     
  5. DNAY!

    DNAY! Ketchup Robot

    Well, I believe you when you say that that is the first thing you learn about them, but I haven't learnt about neutrons at all yet!
    And... I said they were charged differently, not opposite.
    AND... IT CLEARLY SAYS: "You understand that? ME NEITHER!"
    I have frickin' no idea what antimatter exactly is, but I just want it in the game!

    *Edit*
    This was from the wikipedia page of antineutrons (which make up antimatter with some other anti-particles):
    It has the same mass as the neutron, and no net electric charge, but has opposite baryon number (+1 for neutron, −1 for the antineutron). I have no idea what this means, but it says opposite. It would be very nice of you if you'd explain this to me.
     
  6. Thaeltis

    Thaeltis Void-Bound Voyager

    Is there a sense wasting tons of energy to create item which... hmm.... gives less energy that was used to create it?
    Antimatter is right now mainly think that "American scientists are able to do" (kind of a pun in local radio), but it's use or produce process is very, very limited
     
  7. SelfAwareChimp

    SelfAwareChimp Industrial Terraformer

    I'm only at school still so I'm not amazing. A neutron has a electric charge of 0 so the antineutron has a charge of 0 because there is no opposite of 0. The baryon number is like a ratio of quarks to antiquarks, and so matter like electrons consists of 3 quarks so has a baryon number of 1 whereas antimatter like a positron has a baryon number of -1. I've only just read up on baryon number but that was the general gist I got from it.

    Anyways, I think antimatter at this moment isn't really needed for Starbound. To me it just seems like another ore idea that can make bombs and kill people and is rare because science! But it isn't actually all that useful. The benefits that it gives don't justify the painstaking means that you are suggesting.
     
  8. captain derps

    captain derps Starship Captain

    Use the energy converter to power the Hadron Collider!

    No profit FTW!
     
  9. XANi

    XANi Big Damn Hero

    Pretty much only if you want to make huge explosion, as matter-antimatter reaction is very efficient at converting mass to energy

    For comparision, Hiroshima-equivalent explosion comes from converting ~1g of mass into energy, so few G's of antimatter can destroy whole city. Expensive as hell, but nothing better if you're space terrorist.
     
  10. Gredd18

    Gredd18 Giant Laser Beams

    With 100 G's of Anti, you could hold the planet to ransom. Thanks for the feel of absolute terror. I want to do this in Starbound.
     
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  11. qazxcwe

    qazxcwe Phantasmal Quasar

    You do realize that it would be impossible to get don't you?
    What is your mining tool made from?
    Yeah, thought so.
     
  12. Gredd18

    Gredd18 Giant Laser Beams

    My Mining tool? Singularity bomb. Anitmatter, Bitches.
     
  13. DNAY!

    DNAY! Ketchup Robot

    My mining tool makes a magnetic field that collects the antimatter.
    Win!
     
  14. Gredd18

    Gredd18 Giant Laser Beams

    It'd have to suspend the Antimatter in nothingness. If you don't...

    GG, Universe.
     
  15. qazxcwe

    qazxcwe Phantasmal Quasar

    Yeah there are more problems caused by this.
    What type of antimatter is this?
    Is it a type of anti cobalt or iron?
    If it isn't a magnetic substance your magnet won't be able to pick it up making half the antimatter you find useless.
     
  16. XANi

    XANi Big Damn Hero

    Lasers, of course http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_tweezers

    But srsly, this is sci-fi game not hard-science simulation ;p
     
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  17. Durg

    Durg Orbital Explorer


    But you would be shooting it through space! Science!
     
  18. Bebe22

    Bebe22 Star Wrangler

    I meant it as a ship to ship weapon. There's no air in space.
     
  19. DNAY!

    DNAY! Ketchup Robot

    Okay, you're right...
    But this isn't real life, this is an awesome game we all want to enjoy.
    So there can be things that aren't real!
     
  20. qazxcwe

    qazxcwe Phantasmal Quasar

    Lasers are made of a concentrated beam of protons which are matter.
    Protons don't normally react with all other matter/antimatter but there is a 1 in 1000,000,000,000,000 (Quadrillion)
    chance that it might for every atom it passes through.
    This figure may make it seem that it would never happen but lasers are beams of the stuff maybe even firing 10,000,000,000 (Ten Billion)
    protons per second meaning the figure would be lowered to 1/100,000 per second chance.
    If it blows up in space with you right beside it you are royally fucked.
    The blast from something that strong could even tear molecules apart from that distance.
    Also if you were using an optical laser how much would you be able to mine at once?
    The laser would be huge! And how long would this stuff take to mine?
    Lastly in his thread he talks about how the LHC could be used to make antimatter.
    This has many flaws including where do you put it???
    Storing antimatter is such a costly task by itself if you tried to store it for more than 10 minutes it would have already cost more energy than it will make!
    Next is the power the LHC uses.
    Whenever the LHC is used in real life entire cities nearby have to shutdown to give it enough power.
    Will you really have that much power in starbound?

    I know it's no hard science simulator but I just wanted to get some facts straight.
     

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