An emotional thread about your disappointments in Starbound

Wow.

I'm quite surprised by how much this thread I started what seems like long ago is still going. I do hope that at least one person at Chucklefish takes the time to read this thread from time to time if only to give feedback of the general disappointments felt by what seems like a quite big portion of the community, since it was always the one thing I wanted this thread to be instead of an usual "complaining" thread. I see many people who accused me to whine uselessly. Others understood my feelings about Starbound and agree that something went wrong - and maybe is still going - with the development. I don't pretend to be the good guy nor do I pretend to be the bad guy. I simply wanted to create a place to respecfully present our disappointments as a community, feeling myself that some decent place to communicate was slowly becoming necessary even for me. And I feel quite better for having expressed myelf back when this thread came into existence.

Please continue to express yourself guys. We can hope that such a discussion platform can reach the devs at least indirectly, and even if you are completely against everything I said in the OP you can also have a big part in a larger discussion that can change something, somehow.

 

I should warn you, if you haven't already read, a lot of this thread is people having dumb arguments about whether or not we have a right to be disappointed in the first place.

Spoiler Alert: People paid for this game, so yes. Also, disappointment doesn't mean hate and deciding not to play anymore. A lot of people here love this game.

 

Who's "all the indie companies"? And what's wrong at Chucklefish? They have the time and funds to ensure they release nothing short of absolute excellence and so far they are very well on the way to releasing an amazing game. All this whining and griping about waiting time will not matter once they release this insanely amazing and there's nothing slow or abnormal about a 2 to 3 year development cycle....a lot of indie companies can't afford that so they cram games out the door prematurely and even when the games turn out good they are still hurt by the amount of missed potential of what could have been if they had the proper time and care. Fortunately for us all, this game will absolutely shine with fulfilled potential.

 

I salute your indefatigable optimism.

 

Why are you so sure 1.0 is this year?

 

Well because about four months months ago they were intending it for release late last year or early this year but they also said that they will take whatever they need to make sure things are done right(which I greatly respect and appreciate), nonetheless things are definitely picking up a lot of momentum now. After the stable version coming this month there will be far more common stable releases(from holiday AMA info by Tiy) in the closeup to the 1.0 but they'll continue adding updating the game and bringing content after release too. Now they just bombed 100 minidungeons like it was nothing so content is coming in fast. The last stables will contain the last of the major features they need ready for launch and new biomes full with their own special content.....the biggest thing I look forward to is support for player built space stations. But yeah, the content implemented will be flooding now like never before.

Now I suppose there's a possibility this will get delayed into next year but I don't view that as being remotely close to probable in any way.

 

I used to have that optimism of yours, but I lost it along the way, we can just hope they do what they said.

 

A lot of things happen during development, this is normal....delays are normal too. I would be far more worried if there were no delays because that is usually a sign that development issues(and there are ALWAYS development issues, no exceptions, coding is a mess and every new change has unexpected consequences) were probably not properly addressed and you will likely find some nasty things under the rug when that happens.

The biggest thing is finishing feature implementation as those are the ones with the biggest and worst ripple effects, adding more blocks or beasties or hats or whatever is very unlikely to be an issue, modders to plenty of that every day without wrecking the game. And at this point they are nearly done with feature implementation, just a few more major ones and then it will likely be smooth sailing.

It's never pleasant to hear about six month delays or year delays or whatever but generally it's worth it and generally the fans would cry a lot louder if the game were released with issues that caused the delays. And they are a very small team so I will have all the patience required. The biggest thing for me is seeing progress and I'm definitely seeing lots of that and it's awe inspiring. This game will rock.

 

What about the entirely of the farming progression system. That's hardly been touched on yet, so they are not "nearly done".

 

That's not an issue....it only requires art assets for plant growth progression and other objects/tech, to be tied in recipes and to be added to the game like any other items.....it's nothing that has the potential to break anything major or that could cause the rewriting of a system. Once they drop full focus into it I doubt it'll take them more than a week or two but they probably have someone doing constant progress on it alongside other things like the hundred mini-dungeons they just added. Stuff like this is the least of their problems. Modders can add a substantial amount of stuff in a few days......the dev team has higher priorities now like nailing down all the major features and doing a performance pass and ironing bugs.

 

Again with modders as surrogate developers?

No, this entire in game system hasn't been touched on, and perhaps you could read the reddit AMA where the developer acknowledges problems with :

Mining
Reasons to Build

etc.. etc..

Lots of work left to do, so no need to undersell everyone else by telling the developers they are nearly done. Maybe you're content with mediocrity, but don't sell the rest of us short. We want a bigger and better game than you it seems.

 

I was simply pointing out that it's simple troublefree work to add the farming progression, it's small stuff that pretty much anyone can fix if you're not happy and at this point the likes you are never going to do anything but gripe even if your own deity of choice descended down to earth and turned this into the very image of perfection. Stop griping about insignificant stuff.....they'll get to it and it'll probably all land in one day like the 100 mini-dungeons.

What but do are you going to have next.....did they promise you ponies too or something?

 

Keybind GUI.

But please stop promoting the false prospectus that this game is perfect, nearly finished, bang on course for classic status etc..

It's not and the developers know it.

Farming progression is "easy"? Please feel free to knock up a mod for this while I go off to eat some dinner. I'll download it when I get back online.

 

Keybinding will be in before launch, hold on to your pants.

And I'm just not worried about simple stuff....like items.....which is all plant progression is, your ship upgrades will stay the same and you might get some lesser armors and a rake for a tier 10 weapon because it's not a combat progression or something. We already have Frackin Flora doing all that just fine.....and I love Frackin Flora quite a lot actually, it's got a lot of fun stuff but for the dev team this kind of stuff in highly unlikely to be a major issue. I rather they worry about important stuff like space stations and ship to ship combat and stuff that the modding community probably can't do. You're obsessing insignificant stuff.

It takes work but it's not problematic work that is likely to create many problems....they'll have it knocked out fairly fast once they get to it, it's not something that will take the dev team months or anything crazy.

Seriously dude go find something better to whine about......something about this game that actually matters.

 

Hm would say that keybinds are nowadays a must... I am left handed myself and would prefere being able to use some other keysettings but the standard one...

Is this really necessary to defend your point? Oh man... I should have stayed on reddit instead...

 

And they are coming, that is a fact, but there's only a handful of devs and a lot to do.....maybe you should learn some patience.

 

Sure I try learning patience while you try to not to insult people disagreeing and we have a deal.
Otherwise... nah... I am patient enough for the things I do.

 

Because ad hominem is the last bastion of the dude and his lost argument?

I did apply to work on the Arab-Israeli peace program, if that's what you mean by something that matters? Unfortunately they are already chock-full of war criminals and don't need any new blood.

How is that farming mod coming along?

 

I can say anything about life achievements, not much point on anonymous forums. Anyone can apply to work on anything, I've actually done stuff but there's no point as anything said here will only ever be a claim and anyone can make grand ones.

I still don't see you pointing to something that is critical to the game, something that is critical and goes beyond the addition of a series of items.