3rd July Progress

Discussion in 'Dev Blog' started by mollygos, Jul 4, 2013.

  1. TheSpoon

    TheSpoon Big Damn Hero

    Again, i highly doubt that the florans look like that though the entire intro-movie. More like something happens to turn the weird florans (if they even are florans) into the spiky mouthed, evil killer plants we know and love. Everybody should calm down. I have faith that the artists haven't messed up the intros as badly as everyone believes. There is a reason they look like that, that isn't chuckelfish changing how floran's faces look at this point in development. Mark my words.
     
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  2. Lollipopz

    Lollipopz Subatomic Cosmonaut

    I'm just going to be honest, the Florans look like Aliens with flowers glued to their head here.
     
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  3. 1John5vs7

    1John5vs7 Hard-To-Destroy Reptile

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    I liked how the Florans looked in this fan art.

    However, I don't REALLY care about the intros as long as the game runs smoothly and looks nice. Still, the two intros that have been released plus the still shot of the Floran intro seem all to have been of lower general quality than the rest of the work your team is doing.

    For example, you took extreme care to get the explosion animation just right in the .gifs you posted a few weeks back. By contrast, it seems you haven't done much in the way of insuring that the proportions of these aliens have high fidelity to the character models with which the community is familiar from the character generation tool. Perhaps these are rough first drafts that will be re-animated for the final release?

    Well at any rate, to me, the intro doesn't matter much as I've stated, though it is the first impression of the game that people will get once they start playing it, so it may be important to really make them 'pop.'



    Pfft. Yea, and when the Glitch intro is a total let down to you, I'm sure you'll spearhead and champion the cause of defending the devs in doing whatever they want with the game and having no fidelity to the original concept art for the race in question.

    No, you'll complain that the race you adore looks totally different in the intro sequences. Moreover, it is NOT a good idea to just sit back and accept whatever Chucklefish provides. There are a lot of fanboys and fangirls in this forum who adore anything the company cranks out just because it's got the Chucklefish stamp on it. That's Group Think or Yes-Man kind of behavior, and it leads a company down wrong paths because they think "Oh, well the community sure seemed to love it, so it must be what they want!" If you're paying for this game and are involved with the indie-development of it from day one as part of the community, it is incumbent upon you to make your opinion heard, because without it, the company is in the dark about what gamers want.

    Remember: we want Chucklefish to be SUCCESSFUL. They actually give a rat's patoot about the community for whom they are developing their games. They have gone to painstaking efforts to listen to our opinions, hear our suggestions, and implement many of the whims we have expressed over the last year. If we sit back and let them simply do a shoddy job of animating the intro sequences and do not express our strong displeasure with the quality of this part of their work, they will end up taking the game to market and will meet *MUCH* more severe criticism from the general gamer population. If Starbound is shot down in flames because we didn't say something that would help Chucklefish make it as competitive a title as possible, I would feel responsible for that, and I should hope the rest of you ladies and gentlemen would as well.

    So, we must draw a fine line. We do not have a RIGHT to DICTATE to Chucklefish what they must or mustn't do. However, we have a responsibility incumbent upon us as the people in the community supporting and encouraging Chucklefish to let them know when something they've done is NOT up to snuff. This is in order to keep them from going belly up (fish pun intended) when they release their flagship title in a few more months.

    P.S. As long as you're criticizing in a RESPECTFUL manner (not that the Internet knows what respect means, anymore), Chucklefish should do what it's supposed to do: be a group of responsible adults running a professional company. That means they don't seek retribution and don't rage over the community not liking their product. Instead, they go back to the drawing board, re-vamp it, make it better, and meet the demand of their consumers with the supply of their product. Of course, any professional company can also choose to ignore it's consumer-base, but that typically doesn't end with great profit margins or return on investment. I think Chucklefish is smarter than that. And at any rate, it's not as if some raging, uncouth forum comments are going to make Tiyuri and the crew rage-quit development. They're not 12-year olds. They can take constructive criticism. And they can probably take savage, nasty criticism too, though I reckon they'd prefer the constructive kind since it's useful and productive.
     
  4. Insanitor

    Insanitor Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Well, in our Defense. Most people have their first image of a floran looking like this:
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    What they releashed is nothing near this... The florans are suppose to be a Carnivore, but the intro picture releashed give me more an idea of a Peaceful Tribal Native American Feel.
     
  5. Cirtaboy

    Cirtaboy Void-Bound Voyager

    Look, I am sorry for anyone I might offend right now. But those "florans" looks like brain-dead green neanderthals.

    Seriously, it's like you went into deviantart to get inspiration for how the floran should look. Hopefully this is all just an elaborate joke, because I will NOT play something that looks like it didn't get enough air when it was born.
     
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  6. Frodew

    Frodew Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Guys, for all we know these may be another type of Floran, perhaps they were more civil and as the new "breed" of barbaric Floran began to develop they decided to cast them away. That would make sense, hence the reason you are in a spaceship flying away from your home world when you start out. Perhaps you were a barbaric outcast. Just a thought :p
     
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  7. Apple Teawalker

    Apple Teawalker Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    If you read the avian lore(don't remember where i found it, but it was official 100%), when avians discovered florans, florans were already aggressive nation with unique knack to reverse engineer things. A bit latter in avian history, they lost a ship at florans homeworld, making it available for planties to leave their homeplanet(burning half of it in the process, to breach avian blockade). Now I need to find the lore to give a link.
    Edit: Found it. http://playstarbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/avianlore_pdf.pdf Second Contact (E4R23)
    Almost the bottom of pdf file.
     
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  8. Requite

    Requite Master Chief

    Interesting? You want the game to be interesting?

    Don't be silly...

    This is one of the most interesting games I've heard of in a long while. It's safe to say; "I'm interested"

    By the way... Progress is looking really great. Keep up the good work guys!
     
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  9. Baku Vicen

    Baku Vicen Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Hope your bones are right
     
  10. Show

    Show Phantasmal Quasar

    I like these Floran : )
     
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  11. Kage Tempest

    Kage Tempest Pangalactic Porcupine

    Thank you for spending the extra time on the UI and progression at the beginning of the game. I got the early access to Edge of Space and... I was completely turned off by how clunky EVERYTHING seemed because of lack of inuitive controls, crafting, animation, direction.... the little tutorial window was ineffective. They should have gone with something more of a tooltip tutorial that actively tries to help you out given their interface. Not saying you guys need that.
     
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  12. Baku Vicen

    Baku Vicen Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Me too !! I can't understand why this totum revolutum
     
  13. Ammonite

    Ammonite Space Penguin Leader

    You might be right, they just look too innocent at this stage.
    Probably the picture just shows the first second of the intro where they are threatened by the shades in the background, just before they get mad and chomp at them with their deadly jaws to defend themselves :monkey:
     
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  14. Leafshade

    Leafshade Aquatic Astronaut

    Please make florans floran!
    This is closer to how they should look (in my opinion)
     

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  15. xnez

    xnez Subatomic Cosmonaut

    I don't mean to sound rude here.. But what can you say about the avian intro? We have seen the whole ' in production ' intro for them, and their art is almost unrecognizable from most of the artwork made for them. The art isn't bad in the intros, don't get me wrong. I'm just saying that the florans you see here are most likely what the florans are meant to look like by the artist. I'm not one to criticize star bound or the devs for anything they've done, because there has been no need to, until these intros. At the rate this is going, the hylotyl and glitch intros is going to have them looking unbearably different and somewhat wrong,god knows, the glitch may be portrayed as having teeth and eyes. which is only going to put off people like the past intros we've seen. What truly disappoints me the most is that the portrayal we see in the intros is what the actual artist thinks they should look. If you look at some of suika ibuki's artwork for star bound, that is the kind of art that people were hoping the game would have. I dont even know what kind of art this is meant to be in the intros, but it's kind of not what I expected, in a bad way. Well this was my first and I definatly hope last rant about content being added. In summary, the intros need a bit of a redo. :(
     
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  16. KillerKitteh

    KillerKitteh Aquatic Astronaut

    They are aliens. :p
     
  17. xnez

    xnez Subatomic Cosmonaut

    Exactly. I was trying to b reasonable before but honestly ? They look absolutely wrong. It's actually saddening to me that they look like this.
     
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  18. Ammonite

    Ammonite Space Penguin Leader

    Aliens in Starbound???
    [​IMG]
     
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  19. xnez

    xnez Subatomic Cosmonaut

    What on earth did you think florans were meant to be/look like? They are savage cannibals. The original meet the florans post needs to be unearthed so people that don't really know what florans are soposed to be can read it :) but yeah I get you, when I first saw that gif I was terrified :)
     
  20. colorbeam

    colorbeam Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Wow. Looking through these comments...most of you people are negative and whiny about this. I, for one, love how the Floran are depicted in that image. Great job, Chucklefish. I might actually consider playing any race aside from humans for the first time. Like...ever.
     

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