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Some rather interesting changes to progression in the nightly build

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by Broconut, Aug 1, 2015.

  1. Broconut

    Broconut Cosmic Narwhal

    I was digging through the assets for the latest nightly build and noticed something strange. In the ore distributions file, uranium and solarium were nowhere to be found. Confused, I decided to take a look at the recipes for the different alloys and was surprised to see that the recipes had been changed. Here's a list of the new recipes:

    1 iron bar + 1 copper bar = 1 steel bar (this one is just weird if you ask me)
    1 titanium bar + 1 silver bar = 1 durasteel bar
    1 refined violium + 1 gold bar = 1 impervium compound (also applies for ferozium and cerulium)

    I have no idea if any of these are final (this is nightly were talking about here), but I thought this was interesting and figured I might as well share it here. Personally, I think metals like copper, silver and gold need more uses, so this is kind of nice I guess, except for copper and iron making steel because lolwut? The other alloys are fictional so I'll let those slide.

    I wonder if the devs have future plans for ores like uranium and plutonium instead of using them to make alloys, assuming these recipe changes stay the way they are. It's weird how you can make weapons and armor with highly dangerous and unstable elements like uranium, so some proper uses aside from ship fuel would be cool. Maybe that's what they're trying to do? Only time will tell!
     
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  2. justbeast

    justbeast Industrial Terraformer

    Oh interesting! Can you tell from the files if the silver and gold ores now only appear on higher tier planets?[DOUBLEPOST=1438442971][/DOUBLEPOST]Also, what does this mean for Oil (now that you don't need it to make steel)? Is it gone too, along with uranium ore?
     
  3. dar601

    dar601 Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    that was the placeholder recipe for the alloys in the development of the winter update
     
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  4. 1nfinitezer0

    1nfinitezer0 Cosmic Narwhal

    hmmm, I wonder if that means they are adjusting how uranium and solarium are used then?
    the copper+iron combination always bothered me. the oil was much nicer conceptually and progression wise.
     
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  5. Broconut

    Broconut Cosmic Narwhal

    I'll just post the entire ore distributions config from nightly.
    Oil can still be found on desert, savannah and scorched worlds and can be used for crafting things like molotovs and the lantern stick, just like in stable.

    {

    "surfaceOres" : [
    [0.5, [ [ "coal", 1.40], [ "copper", 0.20], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.20], [ "iron", 0.20] ] ],
    [1.5, [ [ "coal", 1.40], [ "copper", 0.20], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.20], [ "iron", 0.20] ] ],
    [2.5, [ [ "coal", 1.40], [ "copper", 0.20], [ "silverore", 0.20], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.20], [ "iron", 0.20], [ "titanium", 0.20] ] ],
    [3.5, [ [ "coal", 1.40], [ "copper", 0.20], [ "silverore", 0.20], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.20], [ "iron", 0.20], [ "titanium", 0.20] ] ],
    [4.5, [ [ "coal", 1.40], [ "copper", 0.20], [ "silverore", 0.20], [ "gold", 0.20], [ "platinum", 0.20], [ "diamond", 0.20], [ "iron", 0.20], [ "titanium", 0.20], [ "aegisalt", 0.20], [ "rubium", 0.20], [ "violium", 0.20] ] ],
    [5.5, [ [ "coal", 1.40], [ "copper", 0.20], [ "silverore", 0.20], [ "gold", 0.20], [ "platinum", 0.20], [ "diamond", 0.20], [ "iron", 0.20], [ "titanium", 0.20], [ "aegisalt", 0.20], [ "rubium", 0.20], [ "violium", 0.20] ] ]
    ],

    "depth1" : [
    [0.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.20], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.85], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.30] ] ],
    [1.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.30], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.90], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.30] ] ],
    [2.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.15], [ "silverore", 1.20], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.95], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.15], [ "titanium", 1.30] ] ],
    [3.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.15], [ "silverore", 1.30], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.00], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.15], [ "titanium", 1.30] ] ],
    [4.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.15], [ "silverore", 1.15], [ "gold", 1.20], [ "platinum", 1.20], [ "diamond", 1.05], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.15], [ "titanium", 1.15], [ "aegisalt", 1.30], [ "rubium", 1.30], [ "violium", 1.30] ] ],
    [5.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.15], [ "silverore", 1.15], [ "gold", 1.30], [ "platinum", 1.30], [ "diamond", 1.15], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.15], [ "titanium", 1.15], [ "aegisalt", 1.30], [ "rubium", 1.30], [ "violium", 1.30] ] ]
    ],

    "depth2" : [
    [0.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.90], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.35] ] ],
    [1.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.35], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.95], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.35] ] ],
    [2.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.20], [ "silverore", 1.25], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.00], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.20], [ "titanium", 1.35] ] ],
    [3.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.20], [ "silverore", 1.35], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.05], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.20], [ "titanium", 1.35] ] ],
    [4.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.20], [ "silverore", 1.20], [ "gold", 1.25], [ "platinum", 1.25], [ "diamond", 1.10], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.20], [ "titanium", 1.20], [ "aegisalt", 1.35], [ "rubium", 1.35], [ "violium", 1.35] ] ],
    [5.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.20], [ "silverore", 1.20], [ "gold", 1.35], [ "platinum", 1.35], [ "diamond", 1.20], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.20], [ "titanium", 1.20], [ "aegisalt", 1.35], [ "rubium", 1.35], [ "violium", 1.35] ] ]
    ],

    "depth3" : [
    [0.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.30], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.95], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.40] ] ],
    [1.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.40], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.00], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.40] ] ],
    [2.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 1.30], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.05], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25], [ "titanium", 1.40] ] ],
    [3.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 1.40], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.10], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25], [ "titanium", 1.40] ] ],
    [4.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 1.25], [ "gold", 1.30], [ "platinum", 1.30], [ "diamond", 1.15], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25], [ "titanium", 1.25], [ "aegisalt", 1.40], [ "rubium", 1.40], [ "violium", 1.40] ] ],
    [5.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 1.25], [ "gold", 1.40], [ "platinum", 1.40], [ "diamond", 1.25], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25], [ "titanium", 1.25], [ "aegisalt", 1.40], [ "rubium", 1.40], [ "violium", 1.40] ] ]
    ],

    "core" : [
    [0.5, [ [ "coal", 1.00], [ "copper", 1.30], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.95], [ "corefragment", 1.50], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.40] ] ],
    [1.5, [ [ "coal", 1.00], [ "copper", 1.40], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.00], [ "corefragment", 1.15], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.40] ] ],
    [2.5, [ [ "coal", 1.00], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 1.30], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.05], [ "corefragment", 1.15], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25], [ "titanium", 1.40] ] ],
    [3.5, [ [ "coal", 1.00], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 1.40], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.10], [ "corefragment", 1.15], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25], [ "titanium", 1.40] ] ],
    [4.5, [ [ "coal", 1.00], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 1.25], [ "gold", 1.30], [ "platinum", 1.30], [ "diamond", 1.15], [ "corefragment", 1.15], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25], [ "titanium", 1.25], [ "aegisalt", 1.40], [ "rubium", 1.40], [ "violium", 1.40] ] ],
    [5.5, [ [ "coal", 1.00], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 1.25], [ "gold", 1.40], [ "platinum", 1.40], [ "diamond", 1.25], [ "corefragment", 1.15], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25], [ "titanium", 1.25], [ "aegisalt", 1.40], [ "rubium", 1.40], [ "violium", 1.40] ] ]
    ],

    "moonores" : [
    [0.5, [ [ "plutonium", 0.0] ] ]
    ],

    "moondeepores" : [
    [0.5, [ [ "plutonium", 1.0] ] ]
    ],

    "none" : [
    [0.5, [ [ "copper", 0.0], [ "coal", 0.0] ] ]
    ]
    }

    And yeah, it looks like silver and gold are only available at higher tiers.
    I do remember seeing this in the past, but it was eventually replaced with the progression we have in the current stable branch right now. I was just a little surprised to see it come back again. Like I said though, this is nightly, so chances are CF will probably change it again before unstable hits just like last time. Seeing as how this has shown up for a second time, it makes me think that CF eventually wants to change the way alloys work for a future update or something, but I could be totally wrong.
     
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2015
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  6. CrystalGems

    CrystalGems Tentacle Wrangler

    If I'm correct, isn't steel just iron with any kind of carbon, such as coal or oil? I know Starbound doesn't stay true to science all the time, but this recipe makes no sense.
     
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  7. Mackinz

    Mackinz The Waste of Time

    I can only consider these changes to be placeholders for some more significant changes. Uranium and Solarium ores were fine, and so were the alloy recipes... they recently added an ore merchant tp the Outpost too...
     
  8. riscles

    riscles Orbital Explorer

    Oil is still ingame, I spent ages trying to find enough modules to get the oil, and it turns out I don't need it ARGH!!!!
     
  9. Mackinz

    Mackinz The Waste of Time

    So... I went through Kawa's Nightly diffs and found when the oredistributions were changed (July 28th).

    Code:
    biomes\oredistributions.configfunctions
    4,9c4,9
    < [0.5, [ [ "coal", 1.40], [ "uranium", 0.00], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 0.20], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.20], [ "iron", 0.20] ] ],
    < [1.5, [ [ "coal", 1.40], [ "uranium", 0.00], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 0.20], [ "silverore", 0.20], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.20], [ "iron", 0.20] ] ],
    < [2.5, [ [ "coal", 1.40], [ "uranium", 0.00], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 0.20], [ "silverore", 0.20], [ "gold", 0.20], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.20], [ "iron", 0.20], [ "titanium", 0.20] ] ],
    < [3.5, [ [ "coal", 1.40], [ "uranium", 0.50], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 0.20], [ "silverore", 0.20], [ "gold", 0.20], [ "platinum", 0.20], [ "diamond", 0.20], [ "iron", 0.20], [ "titanium", 0.20] ] ],
    < [4.5, [ [ "coal", 1.40], [ "uranium", 0.00], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 0.20], [ "silverore", 0.20], [ "gold", 0.20], [ "platinum", 0.20], [ "diamond", 0.20], [ "iron", 0.20], [ "titanium", 0.20], [ "aegisalt", 0.20], [ "rubium", 0.20], [ "violium", 0.20] ] ],
    < [5.5, [ [ "coal", 1.40], [ "uranium", 0.00], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.20], [ "copper", 0.20], [ "silverore", 0.20], [ "gold", 0.20], [ "platinum", 0.20], [ "diamond", 0.20], [ "iron", 0.20], [ "titanium", 0.20], [ "aegisalt", 0.20], [ "rubium", 0.20], [ "violium", 0.20] ] ]
    ---
    > [0.5, [ [ "coal", 1.40], [ "copper", 0.20], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.20], [ "iron", 0.20] ] ],
    > [1.5, [ [ "coal", 1.40], [ "copper", 0.20], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.20], [ "iron", 0.20] ] ],
    > [2.5, [ [ "coal", 1.40], [ "copper", 0.20], [ "silverore", 0.20], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.20], [ "iron", 0.20], [ "titanium", 0.20] ] ],
    > [3.5, [ [ "coal", 1.40], [ "copper", 0.20], [ "silverore", 0.20], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.20], [ "iron", 0.20], [ "titanium", 0.20] ] ],
    > [4.5, [ [ "coal", 1.40], [ "copper", 0.20], [ "silverore", 0.20], [ "gold", 0.20], [ "platinum", 0.20], [ "diamond", 0.20], [ "iron", 0.20], [ "titanium", 0.20], [ "aegisalt", 0.20], [ "rubium", 0.20], [ "violium", 0.20] ] ],
    > [5.5, [ [ "coal", 1.40], [ "copper", 0.20], [ "silverore", 0.20], [ "gold", 0.20], [ "platinum", 0.20], [ "diamond", 0.20], [ "iron", 0.20], [ "titanium", 0.20], [ "aegisalt", 0.20], [ "rubium", 0.20], [ "violium", 0.20] ] ]
    
    13,18c13,18
    < [0.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "uranium", 0.00], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 1.15], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.85], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25] ] ],
    < [1.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "uranium", 0.00], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 1.20], [ "silverore", 1.15], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.90], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25] ] ],
    < [2.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "uranium", 0.00], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 1.15], [ "silverore", 1.20], [ "gold", 1.15], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.95], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25], [ "titanium", 1.20] ] ],
    < [3.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "uranium", 1.30], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 1.15], [ "silverore", 1.15], [ "gold", 1.20], [ "platinum", 1.05], [ "diamond", 1.00], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25], [ "titanium", 1.30] ] ],
    < [4.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "uranium", 1.10], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 1.15], [ "silverore", 1.10], [ "gold", 1.15], [ "platinum", 1.10], [ "diamond", 1.05], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25], [ "titanium", 1.30], [ "aegisalt", 1.20], [ "rubium", 1.20], [ "violium", 1.20] ] ],
    < [5.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "uranium", 1.10], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 1.30], [ "copper", 1.15], [ "silverore", 1.05], [ "gold", 1.10], [ "platinum", 1.05], [ "diamond", 1.15], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25], [ "titanium", 1.30], [ "aegisalt", 1.30], [ "rubium", 1.30], [ "violium", 1.30] ] ]
    ---
    > [0.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.20], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.85], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25] ] ],
    > [1.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.90], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25] ] ],
    > [2.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.20], [ "silverore", 1.20], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.95], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.20], [ "titanium", 1.25] ] ],
    > [3.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.15], [ "silverore", 1.25], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.00], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.15], [ "titanium", 1.25] ] ],
    > [4.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.15], [ "silverore", 1.20], [ "gold", 1.20], [ "platinum", 1.20], [ "diamond", 1.05], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.15], [ "titanium", 1.20], [ "aegisalt", 1.25], [ "rubium", 1.25], [ "violium", 1.25] ] ],
    > [5.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.15], [ "silverore", 1.15], [ "gold", 1.25], [ "platinum", 1.25], [ "diamond", 1.15], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.15], [ "titanium", 1.15], [ "aegisalt", 1.25], [ "rubium", 1.25], [ "violium", 1.25] ] ]
    
    22,27c22,27
    < [0.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "uranium", 0.00], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 1.20], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.90], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.30] ] ],
    < [1.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "uranium", 0.00], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 1.20], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.95], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.30] ] ],
    < [2.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "uranium", 0.00], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 1.20], [ "silverore", 1.25], [ "gold", 1.20], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.00], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.30], [ "titanium", 1.25] ] ],
    < [3.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "uranium", 1.35], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 1.20], [ "silverore", 1.20], [ "gold", 1.25], [ "platinum", 1.10], [ "diamond", 1.05], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.30], [ "titanium", 1.35] ] ],
    < [4.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "uranium", 1.15], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 1.20], [ "silverore", 1.15], [ "gold", 1.20], [ "platinum", 1.20], [ "diamond", 1.10], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.30], [ "titanium", 1.35], [ "aegisalt", 1.25], [ "rubium", 1.20], [ "violium", 1.20] ] ],
    < [5.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "uranium", 1.15], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 1.35], [ "copper", 1.20], [ "silverore", 1.10], [ "gold", 1.15], [ "platinum", 1.10], [ "diamond", 1.20], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.30], [ "titanium", 1.35], [ "aegisalt", 1.35], [ "rubium", 1.35], [ "violium", 1.35] ] ]
    ---
    > [0.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.90], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.30] ] ],
    > [1.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.30], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.95], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.30] ] ],
    > [2.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 1.25], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.00], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25], [ "titanium", 1.30] ] ],
    > [3.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.20], [ "silverore", 1.30], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.05], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.20], [ "titanium", 1.30] ] ],
    > [4.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.15], [ "silverore", 1.25], [ "gold", 1.25], [ "platinum", 1.25], [ "diamond", 1.10], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.15], [ "titanium", 1.25], [ "aegisalt", 1.30], [ "rubium", 1.30], [ "violium", 1.30] ] ],
    > [5.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.15], [ "silverore", 1.20], [ "gold", 1.30], [ "platinum", 1.30], [ "diamond", 1.20], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.15], [ "titanium", 1.20], [ "aegisalt", 1.30], [ "rubium", 1.30], [ "violium", 1.30] ] ]
    
    31,36c31,36
    < [0.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "uranium", 0.00], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.95], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25] ] ],
    < [1.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "uranium", 0.00], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 1.30], [ "silverore", 1.25], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.00], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25] ] ],
    < [2.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "uranium", 0.00], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 1.30], [ "gold", 1.25], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.05], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25], [ "titanium", 1.30] ] ],
    < [3.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "uranium", 1.40], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 1.25], [ "gold", 1.30], [ "platinum", 1.15], [ "diamond", 1.10], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25], [ "titanium", 1.40] ] ],
    < [4.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "uranium", 1.20], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 1.20], [ "gold", 1.25], [ "platinum", 1.25], [ "diamond", 1.15], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25], [ "titanium", 1.40], [ "aegisalt", 1.30], [ "rubium", 1.30], [ "violium", 1.30] ] ],
    < [5.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "uranium", 1.20], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 1.40], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 1.15], [ "gold", 1.20], [ "platinum", 1.15], [ "diamond", 1.25], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25], [ "titanium", 1.40], [ "aegisalt", 1.40], [ "rubium", 1.40], [ "violium", 1.40] ] ]
    ---
    > [0.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.30], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.95], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.30] ] ],
    > [1.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.35], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.00], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.40] ] ],
    > [2.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.30], [ "silverore", 1.30], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.05], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25], [ "titanium", 1.30] ] ],
    > [3.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 1.35], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.10], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.20], [ "titanium", 1.40] ] ],
    > [4.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.20], [ "silverore", 1.30], [ "gold", 1.30], [ "platinum", 1.30], [ "diamond", 1.15], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.15], [ "titanium", 1.25], [ "aegisalt", 1.30], [ "rubium", 1.30], [ "violium", 1.30] ] ],
    > [5.5, [ [ "coal", 1.15], [ "copper", 1.15], [ "silverore", 1.25], [ "gold", 1.25], [ "platinum", 1.35], [ "diamond", 1.25], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.15], [ "titanium", 1.20], [ "aegisalt", 1.40], [ "rubium", 1.40], [ "violium", 1.40] ] ]
    
    40,45c40,45
    < [0.5, [ [ "coal", 1.00], [ "uranium", 0.00], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.95], [ "corefragment", 1.50], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.35] ] ],
    < [1.5, [ [ "coal", 1.00], [ "uranium", 0.00], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 1.30], [ "silverore", 1.25], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.00], [ "corefragment", 1.15], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.45] ] ],
    < [2.5, [ [ "coal", 1.00], [ "uranium", 0.00], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 1.30], [ "gold", 1.25], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.05], [ "corefragment", 1.15], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.45], [ "titanium", 1.30] ] ],
    < [3.5, [ [ "coal", 1.00], [ "uranium", 1.40], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 1.25], [ "gold", 1.30], [ "platinum", 1.15], [ "diamond", 1.10], [ "corefragment", 1.15], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.45], [ "titanium", 1.40] ] ],
    < [4.5, [ [ "coal", 1.00], [ "uranium", 1.20], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 0.00], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 1.20], [ "gold", 1.25], [ "platinum", 1.25], [ "diamond", 1.15], [ "corefragment", 1.15], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.45], [ "titanium", 1.40], [ "aegisalt", 1.30], [ "rubium", 1.30], [ "violium", 1.30] ] ],
    < [5.5, [ [ "coal", 1.00], [ "uranium", 1.20], [ "plutonium", 0.00], [ "solarium", 1.40], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 1.15], [ "gold", 1.20], [ "platinum", 1.15], [ "diamond", 1.25], [ "corefragment", 1.15], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.45], [ "titanium", 1.40], [ "aegisalt", 1.40], [ "rubium", 1.40], [ "violium", 1.40] ] ]
    ---
    > [0.5, [ [ "coal", 1.00], [ "copper", 1.30], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 0.95], [ "corefragment", 1.50], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.30] ] ],
    > [1.5, [ [ "coal", 1.00], [ "copper", 1.35], [ "silverore", 0.00], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.00], [ "corefragment", 1.15], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.40] ] ],
    > [2.5, [ [ "coal", 1.00], [ "copper", 1.30], [ "silverore", 1.30], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.05], [ "corefragment", 1.15], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.25], [ "titanium", 1.30] ] ],
    > [3.5, [ [ "coal", 1.00], [ "copper", 1.25], [ "silverore", 1.25], [ "gold", 0.00], [ "platinum", 0.00], [ "diamond", 1.10], [ "corefragment", 1.15], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.20], [ "titanium", 1.40] ] ],
    > [4.5, [ [ "coal", 1.00], [ "copper", 1.20], [ "silverore", 1.30], [ "gold", 1.30], [ "platinum", 1.30], [ "diamond", 1.15], [ "corefragment", 1.15], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.15], [ "titanium", 1.25], [ "aegisalt", 1.30], [ "rubium", 1.30], [ "violium", 1.30] ] ],
    > [5.5, [ [ "coal", 1.00], [ "copper", 1.15], [ "silverore", 1.25], [ "gold", 1.35], [ "platinum", 1.35], [ "diamond", 1.25], [ "corefragment", 1.15], ["fossil", 0.79], [ "iron", 1.15], [ "titanium", 1.20], [ "aegisalt", 1.40], [ "rubium", 1.40], [ "violium", 1.40] ] ]
    
    49c49
    < [0.5, [ [ "plutonium", 0.0], [ "solarium", 0.0] ] ]
    ---
    > [0.5, [ [ "plutonium", 0.0] ] ]
    
    53c53
    < [0.5, [ [ "plutonium", 1.0], [ "solarium", 0.0] ] ]
    ---
    > [0.5, [ [ "plutonium", 1.0] ] ]
    Still trying to wrap my head around the why of this change. If this was done to make precious metals like Copper and Gold more useful, it's a rather nonsensical change considering that all of the soft metals found in-game (Copper, Silver, Gold and Platinum) do a fantastic job of acting as wires for complex machinery and you do not blend durable metals and soft metals and expect a drastically more durable metal...
     
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  10. Elite Space Hobo

    Elite Space Hobo Void-Bound Voyager

    I wonder if Starbound will ever change to using something more like the real process where you have to convert iron to pig iron and then smelt that with a flux material?
     
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  11. VarekRaith

    VarekRaith Phantasmal Quasar

  12. Hunter_J

    Hunter_J Industrial Terraformer

    Copper + Iron = Steel... a friend of mine will get an heart attack if I tell him that. And then turn in his grave hehehehe. This is worth Gold. Protip: Gold is not at all usefull for any sorts of tools like Pickaxes or drills or swords and other kinds of blades. Its too soft.
     
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  13. Slippery Slime

    Slippery Slime Big Damn Hero

    To be honest if they got rid of oil I would'nt be to mad. No more getting slowed down on them dern tar pits
     
  14. Oberic

    Oberic Spaceman Spiff

    I approve of this odd change. It means we won't be railroaded into deserts for our second planet every single time.
     
  15. The Treasure Ship

    The Treasure Ship Void-Bound Voyager

    I can only assume this is a temporary change while they work on recipes, ore distribution, or some combination of issues. Having a little faith in the team, I can't see them making such a silly change permanent.
     
  16. lazarus78

    lazarus78 The Waste of Time

    There are many kinds of steel alloys, some include copper.

    In this case, Iron-Copper alloy is part of what is called Corten Steel.
     
  17. Mackinz

    Mackinz The Waste of Time

    I have news for ya'll.

    And before lazarus chimes up about corten steel, I meant you don't use copper and iron by themselves to produce steel. There is still carbon required (also various other steps, but simply speaking).
     
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  18. Broconut

    Broconut Cosmic Narwhal

    If that's the case, maybe they could keep copper bars in the recipe, but also add coal so that copper and coal both get a good use and the recipe still makes sense. The only flaw to this would be that corten steel has a coppery-orange appearance rather than standard steel's shiny white-gray.

    I found an image that shows corten steel's coloration over time. I thought it was pretty neat. According to this image, corten steel is a yellowish color when it's brand new. An armor set with that color would actually be pretty cool.

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. Rasmenar

    Rasmenar Void-Bound Voyager

    Just wanna point out, there's nothing fictional about Titanium, nor is it an alloy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium

    :D
     
  20. Broconut

    Broconut Cosmic Narwhal

    I think you misread my post. I never stated that titanium was fictional or an alloy. I was referring to durasteel, impervium, ferozium and cerulium. Those are all fictional alloys in the game.
     

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