Modding Discussion Avali 1.0 Reboot Discussion

Discussion in 'Starbound Modding' started by RyuujinZERO, Aug 11, 2016.

  1. Scival

    Scival Black Hole Surfer

    Obviously the malefactors didn't use Nexus augments, but they must have had some kind of neural implants for the avali to develop that kind of technology in the first place.
     
  2. YellowDemonHurlr

    YellowDemonHurlr Phantasmal Quasar

    Not necessarily. There's no reason to believe that the avali couldn't develop augments and AR technology on their own once they reached a sufficient tech level.
     
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  3. IFailAtGaming

    IFailAtGaming Title Not Found

    aww c'mon, that's half the fun, no word of god means we gotta work with what evidence and facts we have and not rely on what ryuujiin (I'll never spell that right) says. Plus, do you think the elder scrolls lore community is just waiting for kirkbride to tell them what's going on? Or the Fallen London just waiting for Alexis Kennedy to tell them what's beyond the horizon, or what is going on with the bazaar? No, they aren't. cause most of the fun is figuring these things out themselves, andcombining their knowledge with other's to reach the correct conclusion. It seems hard, and it is harder, but it's much more rewarding.
     
  4. Scival

    Scival Black Hole Surfer

    When it's intended that way, sure, it's fun. But in this particular case we have a bunch of puzzle pieces from different images ( which are all abstract art, too ) and we're trying to put them together in one rectangular jigsaw puzzle and failing miserably.
     
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  5. Sock of Retribution

    Sock of Retribution Star Wrangler

    Precisely. This isn't exactly supposed to be happening. I'm not really sure why more people aren't worried about Ryuu not posting since October and not on the forums since November.
     
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  6. IFailAtGaming

    IFailAtGaming Title Not Found

    it is a bit worrying, through some, uh, stalking, i can say he seems to be a bit caught up in politics
     
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  7. Sock of Retribution

    Sock of Retribution Star Wrangler

    I'm curious. Where did you get such info?
     
  8. IFailAtGaming

    IFailAtGaming Title Not Found

    reddit, by caught up, i don't mean he's doing political stuff, just talking about politics, but if that would take up all of his time i can't say, plus, it's not unlikely he has a job, that tends to make people have a decent bit less spare time
     
  9. Scival

    Scival Black Hole Surfer

  10. IFailAtGaming

    IFailAtGaming Title Not Found

    i'm pretty sure it isn't, and i'm not going to reveal what i believe his actual account is cause i feel like enough of an asshole already, but i can say that there are like 15 variations on that one name
     
  11. YellowDemonHurlr

    YellowDemonHurlr Phantasmal Quasar

    I saw him respond to a question on the Avali wiki a few days ago, but I suggest you just let him be. I think the avali fanbase grates on him sometimes. Hand mod development over to Triage again, since it was his intention that Triage keep going instead of stopping like it did when he announced the reboot.
     
  12. Scival

    Scival Black Hole Surfer

    There isn't really anything to add other than more non-canon silly fun items, hardly implementable fantasies and furniture items that look like they're from factories in desperate need of some QC.
    Clearly whoever you're talking about is just another variation of that name, then!
     
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  13. YellowDemonHurlr

    YellowDemonHurlr Phantasmal Quasar

    There's balancing issues (like the block recipes I updated that were never added, as far as I know), getting villages to spawn more frequently than once in every billion planets, a ship pet, and Rhuujin has posted enough WIPs that Triage could easily add material in that style (easily as in there's clear reference material, not as in it's not a lot of work). I might tackle a custom ship in the new style myself eventually for use in my machinima. And did they add dyeable furniture, yet? The are it in the files, it's just not programmed in.

    In fact, I think I'll go over there and ask them.
     
  14. TR-219

    TR-219 Astral Cartographer


    Pretty sure the recipes have been altered, from my testing. Only problem is, some recipies haven't changed yet, and the nanolaythe still cannot make tungsten blocks
     
  15. Sock of Retribution

    Sock of Retribution Star Wrangler

    That isn't a sufficient excuse for his absence. Even if he's shy (which he does seem to be, I can relate) and doesn't want to tell us how much of a nuisance we might be (myself not really included because he's never even seen me most likely), it's not ok under any circumstances for him to leave the whole community in the dark like this without a single update. Not to mention he's gone so far over his estimated mod development schedule, it's ridiculous. I get it, real life can get in the way, like it is for me now: again, still not a sufficient excuse.
     
  16. YellowDemonHurlr

    YellowDemonHurlr Phantasmal Quasar

    I understand your frustration, but Ryuujin has no formal obligation to work on the mod. It's just a hobby he decided to share with us. While it's not very considerate to leave us without even a word of "I've lost interest in this project and won't be returning to it," there's nothing that says he has to do that and it's counterproductive to get angry at him or track him down and demand answers. Such actions will just discourage him further. The chances of him picking this up again are better if nobody goes and alienates him.

    And if he doesn't pick it up again, he's showed off things well enough that the Triage team (or others) can probably replicate them.

    Also keep in mind that projects of this scale can be downright soul-sucking. I don't make big mods like this, but my machinima involves work that's so mind-numbingly tedious that it's hard to motivate myself to work on it. I'd guess that everybody has at least one project that they started that was going to be huge and epic and they just lost the will to do once they got bogged down in the long, boring, work parts.
     
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  17. Dipdoo

    Dipdoo Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    I have to echo this, particularly about soul-sucking projects.
    I've dropped more projects than I care to count after realizing I wasn't prepared for it after hitting a tougher spot or after feeling drained by repetition. It's a very understandable problem.
     
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  18. Sock of Retribution

    Sock of Retribution Star Wrangler

    I never said he had to work on the mod further, and I never said this kind of work isn't tedious. That's precisely why I've never bothered to take up such a task. I tend to be an emotion-oriented person despite stressing logic, and you are correct about my frustration when I feel like no meaningful development (no canon development, rather) is being made. I also get irked when I feel like my words are constantly getting taken out of context, but I don't want to get too triggered.

    I have to disagree about assets Ryuu's left: I really don't think there are enough. It certainly wasn't Ryuu's intention for Triage to serve as its own reboot and I don't think that's what he'd want anyhow.

    If I were to try and contact him, it'd be only to ask what situation he's in right now and what his plans are for the mod. I'm not forcing him to do anything.

    I just hope you guys are aware how much of an overcast sky his indefinite silence is to this community. The lore is in limbo for as long as he is. If this keeps up, we'll never know when to start developing the reboot assets without him if it comes to that.
     
    Last edited: May 13, 2017
  19. Scival

    Scival Black Hole Surfer

    The really frustrating part isn't that he left in the first place, it's that he came back and was all like "Whooo! REBOOT!" then left again.
     
  20. Sock of Retribution

    Sock of Retribution Star Wrangler

    I'm not angry at the guy (or I at least try not to be), but I honestly don't have much faith that he's coming back on his own power. He would be giving us a heads-up if that's what was going to happen. He certainly hasn't in the past half-year anyhow, and my hope is dwindling the more this keeps up. I don't believe I am alone in this mental standpoint.

    I'm starting to believe more and more that intervention will be necessary, and I hope you see why.
     

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