Please don't make an invedit, community!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by BlastRed, Nov 8, 2013.

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Do you want InvEdit for starbound?

  1. No, that ruins games. "cheats"

    56 vote(s)
    55.4%
  2. Yes, i need to modify something and "promise" not to use it on servers.

    45 vote(s)
    44.6%
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Please don't make an invedit, community!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by BlastRed, Nov 8, 2013.

  1. BlastRed

    BlastRed Phantasmal Quasar

    Man, theres a bunch of things i hate in games and this has to be the top
    because cheaters! Invedits ruin games! If someone in the community chooses to make one of these,
    please don't let it be publicly downloaded.
    Tottaly ruined MP servers for me on terraria.
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  2. WoxandWarf

    WoxandWarf Cosmos Killer

    An inventory editor will undoubtably be made, there will likely be server commands that do something too, but it doesn't (hopefully) matter because servers have the option of forcing characters to be saved serverside so that people can't edit the files.
  3. Jonesy

    Jonesy Sarif's Attack Kangaroo Forum Moderator

    It's inevitable. Hopefully the devs will take measures to deter or prevent it, but people will still try and make things like this.
    Serenity, WolfMimir, Lynx88 and 2 others like this.
  4. Duex

    Duex Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    thats like asking people to not make nude mods for bethesdas games, its inevitable
  5. shucklefan1

    shucklefan1 Aquatic Astronaut

    I dont think you can :/ well, only the weapons part. everyones weapons will be random, since the weapons are randomly generated, I think its impossible to edit weapons ingame.

    but hey you never know
  6. BlastRed

    BlastRed Phantasmal Quasar

    Yeah, i know that, but i wish that, they have to be asked for, like via pm'ing or such method, but not PUBLIC.
    or, you have to buy it!
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  7. WoxandWarf

    WoxandWarf Cosmos Killer

    The game is supposed to be extremely moddable. Players could probably do it themselves if someone tried to pull pay-for-inveditor bullshit.
  8. Namiwakiru

    Namiwakiru Existential Complex

    As people are said, it will happen and server side characters and mod restrictions are your only option.

    If you want to know how fast something can be done, give it to a lazy person, they will always find the fastest way.
    DeadlyLuvdisc and WoxandWarf like this.
  9. J-block

    J-block Pay it Forward

    I'm going to do it just because you told me not to.
    I am made of spite.
    Urikashima, jintoya, kik4444 and 8 others like this.
  10. Zoolot

    Zoolot Existential Complex

    This thread again? We already had a very similar conversation like this with blast as the OP.
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  11. buttfarm

    buttfarm Aquatic Astronaut

    this doesn't sound quite right

    anyway OP just set up your own server and pray no one logs in with stuff they've invedited onto their character i guess?
  12. Bacon

    Bacon Cosmos Killer

    Well this may be why that: If we don't want to end up like Terraria servers likely to get the server-side chars to avoid total exploit of end-game gear and a random gameplay, it takes away the magic from the game.
  13. Darthkitten

    Darthkitten Oxygen Tank

    You're asking a useful tool not to be created, because it is misused at times.
    I said it once, and I'll say it as many times as I need to:

    Inventory editors and world editors can be used for the creation of maps, or to do what would otherwise be a pain.
    If I want to play the game using only level 100 rocket launchers, then I have every right to. If I want to have a bomb war with my friends, that's alright as well.
    Making a giant arena, fighting thirteen bosses at once, or simply fooling around with god powers, they're all different ways to play with the game.
    Asking someone not to create or use an inventory editor is not only inevitable, it's hindering.
  14. Dzelda

    Dzelda Spaceman Spiff

    Short story: No.

    Long story? Hell no. What possibly makes you think asking the Internet of all things to not do something is going to work? Thats like asking your little brother to stop sneaking up on you because it scares you. Why the hell did you think he was doing it to begin with?!
  15. Jman1177

    Jman1177 The Number of the Minibeast

    There is no problem with invedit, and it's unavoidable in a game which aims to be heavily moddable.

    However, the Devs mentioned they may make it so server hosts can require charactors to be saved online. If that's the case, then it shouldn't be an issue.
  16. Xander

    Xander Existential Complex

    People have already explained the inevitability.

    You need to find a group of people remotely trustworthy and simply play with them. It isn't a perfect fix, someone could use it on the sly or otherwise bend the groups rules. It is the only real solution though. There is no real fix to a social issue like this, only finding ways to mitigate it. It is true there maybe things the programers can do to limit it, but how long until someone makes a hack that can get around it?

    It beats trying to convince a whole community not to do something.
  17. bludud101

    bludud101 Phantasmal Quasar

    There's probably going to be 10 of them on launch day
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  18. M67 Zippo

    M67 Zippo Space Spelunker

    Inventory editors are good for testing both maps and mods. Denying mod makers tools ensures that starbound will eventually die out.
  19. JackAllan

    JackAllan Void-Bound Voyager

    The issue with things like this, is that you're denying invedit to people who like to use it, and never touch other people's servers. I love my terraria inventory editor, I love my terraria map editor. They help keep the game fresh for me when I would otherwise be burning out on it.
    (Probably my number one invedited material is building materials.)
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  20. Quantum

    Quantum Cosmic Narwhal

    I don't mean this in a rude way but your poll options are just asinine.
    This type of modification will always happen, and should happen because they are useful in their own right. Chucklefish has already talked about server's being able to force new characters so I don't see your issue.

    Edit:
    Couldn't have said it any better.
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