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Music skill/ability in StarBound

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by kfaj, Nov 13, 2013.

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Music?

  1. yes

    24.1%
  2. hell yes

    65.5%
  3. not sure

    3.4%
  4. lets talk

    10.3%
  5. no

    10.3%
  6. aint nobody got time for that

    13.8%
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Music skill/ability in StarBound

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by kfaj, Nov 13, 2013.

  1. kfaj

    kfaj Aquatic Astronaut

    I just wanted to make this to see if anyone had any thoughts on this, or if it had already been done. The idea for it I had in mind was being able to compose music into the game and play it through buy-able and craft-able musical instruments using mml or midi. If anyone here has ever played Mabinogi they will know exactly what i'm talking about although i'm not keen on adding restrictions to how much you can compose like they do in said game. The obvious options of turning that volume down or being able to mute someone purposely using it to troll should also be discussed.
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    • kfaj

      kfaj Aquatic Astronaut

      I wanted to make a thread about this first before I made this a suggestion just to help me define what I and/or the rest of us would want to be in said suggestion.
      • Crye

        Crye Aquatic Astronaut

        I think something like this is already being made in the game.. Also next time try and keep it in one post and add some more details to the point or idea that you are trying to show ^^



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        • kfaj

          kfaj Aquatic Astronaut

          I'll work on finishing the idea before posting it and adding to it in the future. :)
          I really just wanted to see others opinions on it and talk about general speculation about how it will work, and the mechanics for it.
          • JackAllan

            JackAllan Void-Bound Voyager

            Already in the game. You can craft instruments and use them to play songs via ABC files.
            • carcrasher65

              carcrasher65 Pangalactic Porcupine

              Eh I like the idea of skills and leveling abilities but I wouldn't want to spend hours just trying to level my character up enough to play "Through the Fire Flames" or "Still alive".
              Sources: Mabinogi Bard Skill
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              • Clockwork

                Clockwork Black Hole Surfer

                I would rather not have to grind to be able to play music well.

                Also, instruments are in the game, you might want to look a the list of announced game information sometime.
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                • Raybrandt

                  Raybrandt Jackpot!

                  There will be no 'skill' involved, apparently.

                  Also, I'm a rabid Mabinogi player and I've been annoying the hell out of Bart over and over for MML support, since that's what I'm used to.

                  He told me to go develop an MML to ABC converter, since Starbound is using ABC. How RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE.
                  • Jonesy

                    Jonesy Sarif's Attack Kangaroo Forum Moderator

                    I don't really see the point in having a skill for it. If people want to play music, let them. There aren't really any skills in the game, anyway.
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                    • PlayMp1

                      PlayMp1 Scruffy Nerf-Herder

                      Well, you might be able to find a bit of a workaround rather than having to develop a direct converter. I'm sure there's things that can convert from MIDI to ABC and from MML to MIDI. So take whatever you want to put in SB, convert it to MIDI, and convert the MIDI to ABC. Presto, MML to ABC!
                      • Raybrandt

                        Raybrandt Jackpot!

                        I've tried that.

                        It absolutely SLAUGHTERS whatever you had. Especially since MML supports multiple tracks playing at once a bit better than ABC.
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                        • PlayMp1

                          PlayMp1 Scruffy Nerf-Herder

                          Can you write music in standard Western notation? Start from there instead of from MML, then convert to ABC.
                          • POCKoCLOCK

                            POCKoCLOCK Void-Bound Voyager

                            I hope they include a wide range of instruments. Woodwinds, brass, percussion, and string. I want my trombone.
                            • PlayMp1

                              PlayMp1 Scruffy Nerf-Herder

                              Who's up for creating a Starbound Jazz Orchestra? I'll play drums. Maybe vibraphone.
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                              • kfaj

                                kfaj Aquatic Astronaut

                                Yeah I must have over looked it when i was browsing the features. :p
                                I am also not keen on the idea of grinding levels, but I still want to see this fleshed out.
                                I think we as a community could push them to make a converter as part of the game, but i'm not sure if I want to take their time away to do that vs getting the rest of the game done.
                                I still like the idea of music affecting your group or enemies though! (ie: Buffs, debuffs, maybe even damage in some cases or other neat effects)
                                I don't know about you but i'm going to be jamin with my old school videogame songs!
                                (P.S. can i get a link to an easy to use abc making program? Like what 3ml is to mml.)
                                • PlayMp1

                                  PlayMp1 Scruffy Nerf-Herder

                                  They don't need to make a converter themselves. I'm certain some smart programmer/musician will make a converter relatively quickly.
                                  • Namiwakiru

                                    Namiwakiru Black Hole Surfer

                                    There was a big suggestion thread on buffs/debuffs from music, but there was a lot of arguments about the validity of the bard system in a space game.

                                    As for ABC notation, there is a wealth of existing resources such as the Lord of the Rings online ABC site
                                    http://www.lotro-abc.com/

                                    There are some free programs about like EasyABC which turn midi files in to ABC notation for you
                                    http://www.nilsliberg.se/ksp/easyabc/

                                    If you like to compose your own, you can find a program like MuseScore which lets you turn self written sheet music in to midi files
                                    http://musescore.org/

                                    There is a bunch of free choices out there, those are just a few I use for simple ABC notation and midi generation
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                                    • Serenity

                                      Serenity The End of Time

                                      Your crazy everything must be a skill, like breathing if your skill is to low your character will instantly suffocate.
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                                      • Svarr Chanston

                                        Svarr Chanston Scruffy Nerf-Herder

                                        Yes.
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                                        • I hope there is a little depth to music and instruments, but not grindfest I don't wanna give instruments a try because its a pointless trait depth.
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