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Music skill/ability in StarBound

Discussion in 'Starbound Discussion' started by kfaj, Nov 13, 2013.

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Music?

  1. yes

    24.1%
  2. hell yes

    65.5%
  3. not sure

    3.4%
  4. lets talk

    10.3%
  5. no

    10.3%
  6. aint nobody got time for that

    13.8%
  1. kfaj

    kfaj Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    I just wanted to make this to see if anyone had any thoughts on this, or if it had already been done. The idea for it I had in mind was being able to compose music into the game and play it through buy-able and craft-able musical instruments using mml or midi. If anyone here has ever played Mabinogi they will know exactly what i'm talking about although i'm not keen on adding restrictions to how much you can compose like they do in said game. The obvious options of turning that volume down or being able to mute someone purposely using it to troll should also be discussed.
     
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  2. kfaj

    kfaj Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    I wanted to make a thread about this first before I made this a suggestion just to help me define what I and/or the rest of us would want to be in said suggestion.
     
  3. Crye

    Crye Subatomic Cosmonaut

    I think something like this is already being made in the game.. Also next time try and keep it in one post and add some more details to the point or idea that you are trying to show ^^



     
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  4. kfaj

    kfaj Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    I'll work on finishing the idea before posting it and adding to it in the future. :)
    I really just wanted to see others opinions on it and talk about general speculation about how it will work, and the mechanics for it.
     
  5. JackAllan

    JackAllan Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Already in the game. You can craft instruments and use them to play songs via ABC files.
     
  6. carcrasher65

    carcrasher65 Pangalactic Porcupine

    Eh I like the idea of skills and leveling abilities but I wouldn't want to spend hours just trying to level my character up enough to play "Through the Fire Flames" or "Still alive".
    Sources: Mabinogi Bard Skill
     
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  7. Clockwork

    Clockwork Master Astronaut

    I would rather not have to grind to be able to play music well.

    Also, instruments are in the game, you might want to look a the list of announced game information sometime.
     
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  8. Raybrandt

    Raybrandt Jackpot!

    There will be no 'skill' involved, apparently.

    Also, I'm a rabid Mabinogi player and I've been annoying the hell out of Bart over and over for MML support, since that's what I'm used to.

    He told me to go develop an MML to ABC converter, since Starbound is using ABC. How RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE.
     
  9. Jonesy

    Jonesy Sarif's Attack Kangaroo Forum Moderator

    I don't really see the point in having a skill for it. If people want to play music, let them. There aren't really any skills in the game, anyway.
     
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  10. PlayMp1

    PlayMp1 Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Well, you might be able to find a bit of a workaround rather than having to develop a direct converter. I'm sure there's things that can convert from MIDI to ABC and from MML to MIDI. So take whatever you want to put in SB, convert it to MIDI, and convert the MIDI to ABC. Presto, MML to ABC!
     
  11. Raybrandt

    Raybrandt Jackpot!

    I've tried that.

    It absolutely SLAUGHTERS whatever you had. Especially since MML supports multiple tracks playing at once a bit better than ABC.
     
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  12. PlayMp1

    PlayMp1 Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Can you write music in standard Western notation? Start from there instead of from MML, then convert to ABC.
     
  13. POCKoCLOCK

    POCKoCLOCK Void-Bound Voyager

    I hope they include a wide range of instruments. Woodwinds, brass, percussion, and string. I want my trombone.
     
  14. PlayMp1

    PlayMp1 Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Who's up for creating a Starbound Jazz Orchestra? I'll play drums. Maybe vibraphone.
     
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  15. kfaj

    kfaj Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    Yeah I must have over looked it when i was browsing the features. :p
    I am also not keen on the idea of grinding levels, but I still want to see this fleshed out.
    I think we as a community could push them to make a converter as part of the game, but i'm not sure if I want to take their time away to do that vs getting the rest of the game done.
    I still like the idea of music affecting your group or enemies though! (ie: Buffs, debuffs, maybe even damage in some cases or other neat effects)
    I don't know about you but i'm going to be jamin with my old school videogame songs!
    (P.S. can i get a link to an easy to use abc making program? Like what 3ml is to mml.)
     
  16. PlayMp1

    PlayMp1 Scruffy Nerf-Herder

    They don't need to make a converter themselves. I'm certain some smart programmer/musician will make a converter relatively quickly.
     
  17. Namiwakiru

    Namiwakiru Black Hole Surfer

    There was a big suggestion thread on buffs/debuffs from music, but there was a lot of arguments about the validity of the bard system in a space game.

    As for ABC notation, there is a wealth of existing resources such as the Lord of the Rings online ABC site
    http://www.lotro-abc.com/

    There are some free programs about like EasyABC which turn midi files in to ABC notation for you
    http://www.nilsliberg.se/ksp/easyabc/

    If you like to compose your own, you can find a program like MuseScore which lets you turn self written sheet music in to midi files
    http://musescore.org/

    There is a bunch of free choices out there, those are just a few I use for simple ABC notation and midi generation
     
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  18. Serenity

    Serenity The Waste of Time

    Your crazy everything must be a skill, like breathing if your skill is to low your character will instantly suffocate.
     
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  19. Svarr Chanston

    Svarr Chanston Cosmic Narwhal

    Yes.
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  20. I hope there is a little depth to music and instruments, but not grindfest I don't wanna give instruments a try because its a pointless trait depth.
     
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